Neighborhood mesh statistical multiplexing
I wonder if they'll break BCP 38... or vice-versa... http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/bewifi-lets-you-steal-your-neighbors... -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
On Jan 26, 2014, at 16:04 , Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
I wonder if they'll break BCP 38... or vice-versa...
http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/bewifi-lets-you-steal-your-neighbors...
As long as Telefonica customers only use other Telefonica links within WiFi range, Telefonica can ensure it will have no effect on BCP38. Worst case, I can "ddos" the guy in the next apartment by spoofing his address. Best case, they ensure the BeWifi software disallows such things. And I don't see other broadband networks allowing Telefonica customers to ride their links. I also wonder why Telefonica would do this as opposed to telling people to upgrade their DSL? -- TTFN, patrick
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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
On Jan 26, 2014, at 16:04 , Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
I wonder if they'll break BCP 38... or vice-versa...
http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/bewifi-lets-you-steal-your-neighbors...
As long as Telefonica customers only use other Telefonica links within WiFi range, Telefonica can ensure it will have no effect on BCP38. Worst case, I can "ddos" the guy in the next apartment by spoofing his address. Best case, they ensure the BeWifi software disallows such things.
And I don't see other broadband networks allowing Telefonica customers to ride their links.
I also wonder why Telefonica would do this as opposed to telling people to upgrade their DSL?
Unless I misread the piece, Pat, they *do* intend for customers to mesh non-Telefonica links, which is half of your answer. "All our customers are at max rate for their distance" is probably the other half. I was making the former assumption in my musing. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:58 , Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
On Jan 26, 2014, at 16:04 , Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
I wonder if they'll break BCP 38... or vice-versa...
http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/bewifi-lets-you-steal-your-neighbors...
As long as Telefonica customers only use other Telefonica links within WiFi range, Telefonica can ensure it will have no effect on BCP38. Worst case, I can "ddos" the guy in the next apartment by spoofing his address. Best case, they ensure the BeWifi software disallows such things.
And I don't see other broadband networks allowing Telefonica customers to ride their links.
I also wonder why Telefonica would do this as opposed to telling people to upgrade their DSL?
Unless I misread the piece, Pat, they *do* intend for customers to mesh non-Telefonica links, which is half of your answer.
I guess we read it differently. They even mention "Telefonica is currently looking towards developing economies and its huge customer base". Finally, assuming they ask someone else to do this, can you imagine another network saying "sure, use my DSL link to make your customer happier..."?
"All our customers are at max rate for their distance" is probably the other half.
Thought about that, but they discuss customers on different tariffs. It might be useful when everyone is limited to 128 Kbps or something.
I was making the former assumption in my musing.
You know what you do when you make an assumption, right? You make an ASS out of U and MPTION. :) -- TTFN, patrick
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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Unless I misread the piece, Pat, they *do* intend for customers to mesh non-Telefonica links, which is half of your answer.
I guess we read it differently.
They even mention "Telefonica is currently looking towards developing economies and its huge customer base".
Finally, assuming they ask someone else to do this, can you imagine another network saying "sure, use my DSL link to make your customer happier..."?
Nope, sure can't.
"All our customers are at max rate for their distance" is probably the other half.
Thought about that, but they discuss customers on different tariffs.
It might be useful when everyone is limited to 128 Kbps or something.
I was making the former assumption in my musing.
You know what you do when you make an assumption, right? You make an ASS out of U and MPTION. :)
Thank you, Tony Randall. :-) (You know, I can't find an earlier citation for that riff than the Odd Couple episode...) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
I guess we read it differently.
[ rereads ] I'm wrong; you win; shut up. :-) I did find *this* amusing, though: """ Another unexpected finding was that people do not use the Internet heavily all at exactly the same time—a concern at the beginning of the trial—but in sporadic bursts. This means there is nearly always some spare bandwidth available to be recycled. """ It was unexpected, to them? Really? Has streaming widened out the end-user consumption so much that statmuxing isn't thought to be useful anymore? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
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