All, I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is like from CableVision in central NJ to your network in South Florida or the latency etc. I go large scale I wanted to know how much demand there was for such a service. Regards, Dovid
So you've invented RIPE ATLAS? On 10/25/2015 3:49 PM, Dovid Bender wrote:
All,
I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is like from CableVision in central NJ to your network in South Florida or the latency etc. I go large scale I wanted to know how much demand there was for such a service.
Regards,
Dovid
Hi Dovid, We have in Brazil a project like this. It's called ISPTools: www.isptools.com.br. Everyone can host a node, it's a simple nodejs. The author is very receptive, you can contact him to translate the site. Regards. -- Eduardo Schoedler 2015-10-25 17:49 GMT-02:00 Dovid Bender <dovid@telecurve.com>:
All,
I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is like from CableVision in central NJ to your network in South Florida or the latency etc. I go large scale I wanted to know how much demand there was for such a service.
Regards,
Dovid
Correction: it's already translated to english: http://www.isptools.com.br/?locale=en_US Regards, -- Eduardo Schoedler 2015-10-26 15:38 GMT-02:00 Eduardo Schoedler <listas@esds.com.br>:
Hi Dovid,
We have in Brazil a project like this. It's called ISPTools: www.isptools.com.br.
Everyone can host a node, it's a simple nodejs.
The author is very receptive, you can contact him to translate the site.
Regards.
-- Eduardo Schoedler
2015-10-25 17:49 GMT-02:00 Dovid Bender <dovid@telecurve.com>:
All,
I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is like from CableVision in central NJ to your network in South Florida or the latency etc. I go large scale I wanted to know how much demand there was for such a service.
Regards,
Dovid
These are "open" projects that ISPs can join to monitor performance between networks, I would recommend joining those instead of reinventing the wheel. I don't how much scope or interest there would be just for a raw speed test between networks though, however if enough networks really wanted it you could talk to the guys running the NL Ring (if it isn't already a feature, you could develop it there). https://ring.nlnog.net/ https://atlas.ripe.net/ I'm not sure if RIPE allow ISPs from outside Europe to join the Atlas project, if not ARIN could start one, it's been very successful here in Europe. Cheers, James.
In message <CAAWx_pXZnrP3OKRoRc6KzOO7590dZNasR9CxgQf6Qs0dPxgr2A@mail.gmail.com> , James Bensley writes:
These are "open" projects that ISPs can join to monitor performance between networks, I would recommend joining those instead of reinventing the wheel.
I don't how much scope or interest there would be just for a raw speed test between networks though, however if enough networks really wanted it you could talk to the guys running the NL Ring (if it isn't already a feature, you could develop it there).
I'm not sure if RIPE allow ISPs from outside Europe to join the Atlas project, if not ARIN could start one, it's been very successful here in Europe.
There are Atlas probes all over the world. I have one here in Sydney connected via Optus and HE (San Hose). I'm just waiting for HE to complete bringing up their Sydney POP and hopefully with that tunnel end points as Optus doesn't appear to be intending to deliver IPv6 anytime soon. Hopefully with the NBN saying they are taking over the HFC we might get IPv6 as I think that the NBN as caused ISP's to stall upgrades to support IPv6. Mark
Cheers, James. -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
On Sun 2015-Oct-25 19:49:50 +0000, Dovid Bender <dovid@telecurve.com> wrote:
All,
I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is like from CableVision in central NJ to your network in South Florida or the latency etc. I go large scale I wanted to know how much demand there was for such a service.
...you mean other than RIPE Atlas, the NLNOG ring, Samknows, or UCLA's Cyclops? Or like those, but with a richer node?
Regards,
Dovid
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On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Dovid Bender <dovid@telecurve.com> wrote:
All,
I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is like from CableVision in central NJ to your network in South Florida or the latency etc. I go large scale I wanted to know how much demand there was for such a service.
There appear to be a few things like this, eg: Raintank and the RIPE Atlas project that have fairly diverse views. I’m not aware of anything with perfect penetration. With RIPE Atlas it’s roll your own, where Raintank is SaaS. I’m sure there are others, but these are the two I’m aware of. - Jared
Dovid, What features are you thinking that would be useful? Latency, QoS, Tracert, AS Hops, etc? Many networks have the OOkla speedtest server hung off a link from their website or even some flavor of a Looking Glass site. Having yet another platform maybe difficult for the ISP to participate, even then it would be placed at or near the core of their network and not out with the end users. Maybe with some incentive you could get end users (aka the Eyeballs) to plug in something small like a Raspberry Pi device or run a software app on their computers. But if the end users on the various networks won't get anything from it, you are going to be struggling to have enough take rate to have good statistics. You may find that the only ones interested are a small set of network operators. Sincerely, Nick Ellermann - CTO & VP Cloud Services BroadAspect E: nellermann@broadaspect.com P: 703-297-4639 F: 703-996-4443 THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Dovid Bender Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 3:50 PM To: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: EyeBall View All, I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is like from CableVision in central NJ to your network in South Florida or the latency etc. I go large scale I wanted to know how much demand there was for such a service. Regards, Dovid
There are a plenty of services/research doing that. M-Lab RIPE Atlas Speedtest to name some. .as On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 at 10:35 Dovid Bender <dovid@telecurve.com> wrote:
All,
I had an idea to create a product where we would have a host on every EyeBall network. Customers could then connect to these hosts and check connectivity back to their network. For instance you may want to see what the speed is like from CableVision in central NJ to your network in South Florida or the latency etc. I go large scale I wanted to know how much demand there was for such a service.
Regards,
Dovid
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Alan Buxey -
Arturo Servin -
Brian Rak -
Dovid Bender -
Eduardo Schoedler -
Hugo Slabbert -
James Bensley -
Jared Mauch -
Mark Andrews -
Nick Ellermann