Re: UUNET is not the Internet (and neither is AOL)
Hi there, What really confuses the heck out of me is that a company this size can't control/monitor their change management??. Then again not having all the facts has had everyone perplexed. later, vicky At 07:38 PM 10/5/2002 -0400, you wrote:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Tim Thorne wrote:
After reading all the stories about what supposedly happened does anyone know what really happened? Did UUNet US really do an IOS upgrade on a sizable proportion of their border routers in one go? This seems like suicide to me. What possible reason could there be for a network-wide roll out of an untested IOS apart from being in the mire already?
Corporate culture is the hardest thing to change in a company. You'll need to talk with your Worldcom account rep about what happened, and what Worldcom intends to do about it. In the past, Worldcom has not been very open or transparent when it has had network problems.
Hi there,
What really confuses the heck out of me is that a company this size can't control/monitor their change management??. Then again not having all the facts has had everyone perplexed.
It really should not confuse you. At least one year ago, there had been a Very Large company that used a single shared inbox for customer communication regarding BGP filter updates. That company had no concept of a ticketing system. Alex
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Vicky O. Mair wrote:
What really confuses the heck out of me is that a company this size can't control/monitor their change management??. Then again not having all the facts has had everyone perplexed.
Actually I believe they have very good change management. Change management is about tracking, documentating, implementing consistent changes. It is possible to consistently implement something that is broken. By definition change is doing something different. But Innovation Control doesn't have the same ring to it. I like change. Change has been very good to me. But I also like informed judgement, not only by my vendor but also by me.
...so what exactly did we(AOL) do to get referenced in this email thread? Cleve... Cleve Mickles Network Architecture America Online, Network Operations
On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 14:29, Cleve Mickles wrote:
...so what exactly did we(AOL) do to get referenced in this email thread?
Years of marketing that made "AOL" interchangable with "the Internet" for a large percentage of the tv viewing world. ;) -- Ryan Fox <rfox@amerisuk.com>
I think it's the assumption that most people view "UUNet" as the dominant business ISP (which is not necessarily the case) and most people (esp AOL customers) view "AOL == Internet" which people here know not to be the case. - Jared On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 02:29:18PM -0400, Cleve Mickles wrote:
...so what exactly did we(AOL) do to get referenced in this email thread?
Cleve...
Cleve Mickles Network Architecture America Online, Network Operations
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