TCP-AO for BGP Peering?
Y'all -- Does anyone know of a survey or study showing the rate of uptake for BGP over TCP-AO? I've poked around some and asked in a few places and not found anything, but I probably missed something out there. If there's no studies, does anyone have any experiences possibly indicating BGP over TCP-AO usage they can share? :-) /r
Hi, you can start from here: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/transport-ip/topi... Regards, ----- Marco Paesani Skype: mpaesani Mobile: +39 348 6019349 Success depends on the right choice ! Email: marco@paesani.it Il giorno mer 12 giu 2024 alle ore 12:52 7riw77@gmail.com <7riw77@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Y'all --
Does anyone know of a survey or study showing the rate of uptake for BGP over TCP-AO? I've poked around some and asked in a few places and not found anything, but I probably missed something out there.
If there's no studies, does anyone have any experiences possibly indicating BGP over TCP-AO usage they can share?
:-) /r
I don't think that URL explains how commonly it is used. In my experience TCP-AO use is extremely limited, partly because it's super new in practice. Juniper had it for a long time, but it was pre-standard even years after the standard was published, which probably didn't matter much, as no one else had it at all until somewhat recently. I suspect this type of order of events may have led many people to look into TCP-AO early on, and decided correctly it was not operationally feasible, and that has stuck. On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 13:57, Marco Paesani <marco@paesani.it> wrote:
Hi, you can start from here: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/transport-ip/topi...
Regards,
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Marco Paesani
Skype: mpaesani Mobile: +39 348 6019349 Success depends on the right choice ! Email: marco@paesani.it
Il giorno mer 12 giu 2024 alle ore 12:52 7riw77@gmail.com <7riw77@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Y'all --
Does anyone know of a survey or study showing the rate of uptake for BGP over TCP-AO? I've poked around some and asked in a few places and not found anything, but I probably missed something out there.
If there's no studies, does anyone have any experiences possibly indicating BGP over TCP-AO usage they can share?
:-) /r
-- ++ytti
There's a github repo with configuration examples from a number of vendors https://github.com/TCP-AO As for usage....slow adoption. I only know of one production deployment (because I control both eBGP routers :) https://labs.ripe.net/author/andrew-gallo/production-deployment-of-tcp-authe... (maybe Cunningham's law will apply and someone will prove me wrong) On 6/12/2024 7:00 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
I don't think that URL explains how commonly it is used.
In my experience TCP-AO use is extremely limited, partly because it's super new in practice. Juniper had it for a long time, but it was pre-standard even years after the standard was published, which probably didn't matter much, as no one else had it at all until somewhat recently.
I suspect this type of order of events may have led many people to look into TCP-AO early on, and decided correctly it was not operationally feasible, and that has stuck.
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 13:57, Marco Paesani <marco@paesani.it> wrote:
Hi, you can start from here: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/transport-ip/topi...
Regards,
-----
Marco Paesani
Skype: mpaesani Mobile: +39 348 6019349 Success depends on the right choice ! Email: marco@paesani.it
Il giorno mer 12 giu 2024 alle ore 12:52 7riw77@gmail.com <7riw77@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Y'all --
Does anyone know of a survey or study showing the rate of uptake for BGP over TCP-AO? I've poked around some and asked in a few places and not found anything, but I probably missed something out there.
If there's no studies, does anyone have any experiences possibly indicating BGP over TCP-AO usage they can share?
:-) /r
We have used it in our core since JunOS 20.3+ but no peers (over 250) have accepted to use TCP-AO so far. On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 8:20 AM Andrew Gallo <akg1330@gmail.com> wrote:
There's a github repo with configuration examples from a number of vendors
As for usage....slow adoption. I only know of one production deployment (because I control both eBGP routers :)
https://labs.ripe.net/author/andrew-gallo/production-deployment-of-tcp-authe...
(maybe Cunningham's law will apply and someone will prove me wrong)
On 6/12/2024 7:00 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
I don't think that URL explains how commonly it is used.
In my experience TCP-AO use is extremely limited, partly because it's super new in practice. Juniper had it for a long time, but it was pre-standard even years after the standard was published, which probably didn't matter much, as no one else had it at all until somewhat recently.
I suspect this type of order of events may have led many people to look into TCP-AO early on, and decided correctly it was not operationally feasible, and that has stuck.
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 13:57, Marco Paesani <marco@paesani.it> wrote:
Hi, you can start from here:
https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/transport-ip/topi...
Regards,
-----
Marco Paesani
Skype: mpaesani Mobile: +39 348 6019349 Success depends on the right choice ! Email: marco@paesani.it
Il giorno mer 12 giu 2024 alle ore 12:52 7riw77@gmail.com <
7riw77@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Y'all --
Does anyone know of a survey or study showing the rate of uptake for BGP over TCP-AO? I've poked around some and asked in a few places and not found anything, but I probably missed something out there.
If there's no studies, does anyone have any experiences possibly indicating BGP over TCP-AO usage they can share?
:-) /r
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