Aside from the fact that it helps unrelated people aid you in diagnosing the problem, there's another, more practical reason to do it: When you do, problems you're having will sometimes "magically" disappear, because someone who a) is in a position to fix it, but b) is not in a position to *talk about it* will see the report, do a facepalm, and twist the proper knob to make it go away. While this isn't as optimal in the global sense as a full dialogue on the problem would be, it's a helluva lot better than "it still doesn't work, a week later". And the shorter the thread, the higher the odds this might happen. "One posting" is optimal. :-) Just a thought. Cheers, -- jr 'Happy Chriskwanzukkah, and a Cool Yule' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274