On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 07:29:44PM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote:
John Levine wrote:
Face it, 7D is dead; and even if overlays had not arrived, cell phones would have killed it. Once you learn to think 10D, it's trivial.
Oh, you ignorant rednecks.* Even my cell phone has 7D dialing and it'll be a century before overlays arrive where I live.
The reason that it makes sense for an ISP to warn its customers about surprise toll calls is that toll rates have gotten so low that for the most part, we don't worry about them. Due to the peculiar telegeography in my area, a 7D call within my area code could be local, intra-LATA toll, or inter-LATA toll. But the most expensive of those is 8 cents/min so for voice calls, I don't care, and I really
Duh. I pay less for an international trans-atlantic call for premium voice minutes in retail (US$0.04/minute). Wholesale I get the same minute for less than 2 cents (US$). A 64kbit/s transparent ISDN call on the same path costs 3 cents (US$). And I'm in Switzerland. So it seems to be cheaper for me to call you than it is for you to call someone in the next LATA.
And people wonder why the ILECs are sitting on fat wads of cash? I can get US48 LD for $.02/min. I've found it cheaper sending calls this way then paying for an unlimited plan. Most people in the US can get unlimited LD plans on their POTS service for around $60/mo (with most taxes, etc... included). Regular POTS service can be had for around $14/mo (no frills, no dtmf, etc..) around here at the most cut rate discount plans. When i cancelled my Vonage service, they were willing to to offer me service for $5 or $6/mo to keep me as a customer. I've found that connecting directly to the PSTN via POTS to be quite expensive compared to most of the alternatives out there, I think it's only a matter of time before one of the ILECS (probally one of the non-major CO-OPs or consortiums) switches over to unlimited domestic plans to capture the LD, as most people don't use enough on an unlimited plan to justify it. - jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.