On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Shane Ronan <sronan@fattoc.com> wrote:
However if someone at ARIN had put in a call to say the top 10 transit providers and asked them to black-hole this space (which they might do) then where would you have been?
'not my customer, not my issue, you REALLY need to talk to ASX who's their provider...' -Chris
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Lewinski [mailto:mike@rockynet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:54 PM To: nanog list Subject: Re: The real issue
Shane Ronan wrote:
Very simple, just do it.
Ha! We have some legacy IP space in continous use here at ASN13345 for over 12 years now that was recently "revoked" for a few weeks (only to be later restored via a transfer once the exact definition of "ownership" in a member-owned cooperative was hammered out).
Guess what stopped working in the interim? Well the whois records were gone and our abuse desk probably had a tiny decrease in complaints as a result. In some quarters that might be seen as a blessing, but we view abuse reports as cries for help from infected hosts that will become larger service outages if not addressed.
Also the in-addr services went away, affecting about a half dozen mail servers out of several thousand hosts in the "revoked" delegation. We did not receive one single call or complaint about connectivity in that duration apart from the in-addr loss, and those customers were offered smart host use or replacement IPs for the duration. The ones who chose the smart host continued to use the "revoked" IP space without problem after that.
The Internet's greatest strength and greatest weakness is the lack of a central authority who can "just do it". I for one am happy it is that way. It's part of what makes us an *autonomous* system, sovereign of our
own little kingdom.
Mike
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