On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com> wrote:
it's also not entirely obvious what the point of having local IXes that serve these kinds of collections of people.
one might consider that localized services or peer-to-peer traffic might not want to burden the long-haul links, for the cost of a 1g or 10g port on a local switch/router. this conversation is sort of like the ipv6 part earlier though... 'if people want to do this, cool! if they don't or can't for $REASONS also cool.'
how much inter-ASN traffic is there generally for a city of 100k people, even if they all have 1Gb/s connections? are they all torrenting, accessing local business web pages that are hosted locally, streaming video from local streaming caches? if a local IX is a good place for a llnw, akamai, ggc, netflix cache node, i can see it, but that's about it.
it's not clear that a flix cache would rate showing up at an IX in (for example) juneau... though it'd sure be interesting to know the share of traffic your 4 exemplars contribute to the overall longhaul traffic mix.
t
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
On 10/12/15 1:57 AM, Henrik Thostrup Jensen wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Jeremy Austin wrote:
Juneau, I'm not so surprised; how many other cities that small and isolated have IXes? I'm curious. It's an interesting prospect, at least for some value of $location.
Several small cities in Sweden have IXes. Not sure than any of them are quite as small as Juneau, but some (Borås, Luleå, Sundsvall) are sub 100k people, and other cities (Umeå, Uppsala) are just over 100k inhabitants. Umeå and Luleå are releativly isolated - at least by European standards.
Most of these are probably just a switch or two, and are probably there to provide better quality of service, and not because it makes for a good business.
Sweden's IX infrastructure is not entirely unique but are certainly borne out of a particular set of circumstances and public private partnerships that don't generally exist elsewhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netnod
Best regards, Henrik
Henrik Thostrup Jensen <htj at nordu.net> Software Developer, NORDUnet