I’d be interested to understand the rationale for not wanting to change the definition. Is it strictly the business/capital outlay expense? Thanks, Chris Adams From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris.adams=ung.edu@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Jason Canady Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 8:39 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections CAUTION: This email originated from outside the University of North Georgia. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If you suspect this message is fraudulent, please forward to spam@ung.edu<mailto:spam@ung.edu?subject=%5BSPAM%20REPORT%5D> or contact the IT Service Desk at 706-864-1922. I second Mike. On 5/28/21 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I don't think it needs to change. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ics-2Dil.com&d=DwMDaQ&c=FbBevciwIvGuzsJQdDnze9uCWRSXekJosRCbxNiCfPE&r=2xyWjaGAJiQBS60SNfJGVrkSN3JvZBCiAkWZBLNrNQA&m=hLl3tE5IUFeCnGVaq9aENU6Cb0VwUJSMovT2ACT74-I&s=S2l1XV98d5g-7uCPfcvNNU5WuML3uo1LVamsKRY-JHE&e=> Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.midwest-2Dix.com&d=DwMDaQ&c=FbBevciwIvGuzsJQdDnze9uCWRSXekJosRCbxNiCfPE&r=2xyWjaGAJiQBS60SNfJGVrkSN3JvZBCiAkWZBLNrNQA&m=hLl3tE5IUFeCnGVaq9aENU6Cb0VwUJSMovT2ACT74-I&s=qGvndXaVQIOyFcKDLyED-Ufmklruq9Q3pArgVVFK1A8&e=> ________________________________ From: "Sean Donelan" <sean@donelan.com><mailto:sean@donelan.com> To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:29:08 PM Subject: New minimum speed for US broadband connections What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband" in the U.S.? This is the list of past minimum broadband speed definitions by year year speed 1999 200 kbps in both directions (this was chosen as faster than dialup/ISDN speeds) 2000 200 kbps in at least one direction (changed because too many service providers had 128 kbps upload) 2010 4 mbps down / 1 mbps up 2015 25 Mbps down / 3 Mbps up (wired) 5 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up (wireless) 2021 ??? / ??? (some Senators propose 100/100 mbps) Not only in major cities, but also rural areas Note, the official broadband definition only means service providers can't advertise it as "broadband" or qualify for subsidies; not that they must deliver better service.