The problem with all this talk, especially with trusted international neutral organizations, is that once they bend they will never be trusted again. Shutting off the routes, removing TLDs (or keeping them because of politics), etc will cause irreparable damage to these organizations. Bowing to governments, politics, etc does not have a path back from future control. This is a recommendation that will only hurt people (China, North Korea, [even the USA], etc all do this to control their people). Governments will get around whatever the limitations are, it may take them time and resources but they will get around it. Freedom of information is the only way to help people understand the reality of what is going on in the world (galaxy, universe, etc). Brian Technological solutions for Sociological problems ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+briansupport=hotmail.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 1:23 PM To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Ukraine request yikes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 3/1/22 4:08 PM, David Conrad wrote:
See .SU.
(SU was moved from allocated to "transitionally reserved” back when the USSR broke up. My recollection is that an agreement was reached by which .SU users would be migrated out to appropriate new ccTLDs, that is, the ccTLDs based on ISO codes created for former Soviet republics, and no new entries would be added to .SU. However, when ICANN tried to propose a plan to finalize removing .SU from the root (around 2006 or so), the operators of .SU reopened registrations and complained to the US Dept. of Commerce, who were overseeing ICANN performance of the IANA Functions contract. Eventually, the Russian government was able to convince ISO-3166/MA to move SU to “exceptionally reserved” (like UK, EU, and a number of others) and forward motion on removing .SU from the root essentially ceased.)
I know someone (non-Russian) using .su for a funny name ending in .su. This is non-political and caters only to an English speaking audience. These were registered in the last few years, so they are still open and taking the registrations. I would ask what of .ly used for various URL shorteners, and .kp or .cn? All these are representing evil countries too, why do they get a pass. I'm certain they would argue .us should be revoked for the same. This would break connectivity, and that's a bad thing. - -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEaESdNosUjpjcN/JhYTmgYVLGkUAFAmIejrUACgkQYTmgYVLG kUA+QQ//Z9ovTSFqVEunql2guHAN3xWaNpCpuNJCGM68dJTBSWrPEY0zFXlmZG1k 0TWrSrRSoWogiJmRvaOuFx6KxkaADqZaZq6OFaCw3jvyFGULw+auyuATGlhnUL8p CV0AbovPUnoAef1qJdglFkqnfrGBxeBGsgRIM8tx2l/G+zq5MdMnCx9cM+JmmN1y b+jrV4oekgXRZLAMI/sA9clMAXUmlgReRvit8YBccunkmMP8naQ92vj9dvVGZld0 hGguK2a7vFXpDiW5o0nFe5GRdGIqM0aWUz6p0qkB9JudkZkAyEqSpCePZky4LdAt ebh9544PZu/vllQjv3L6vENlCURcifTIRSevcwfKZtos7UG4mJI1UQ51OLTRjB7a nqYkVNJSQJ+dXZFLPoRHNUOu4+1MAyozpDeMJzMsr4a7Ru2lh0AOTiXxDaSRhOd+ 2s3rQigh/l6cP/x9iM7+f+rInHzPihHfjbwcxhyqd12EFxgTe3hvi9JlRSe18RYw bnDKQg3xKp1eIk0sZMeLyIWDERjsMxIuEP9MuKHp+oTCrLq6MFSgUiFan7M5Pk2t mwB3sbFuwkVzfmDbbnbelll30ukXQM3d7KVp2AHbsvI6hNs6zHZgRb7ZgGrR9Ep5 6UlYqVqQOWtYNujNxYRgzemFI6lgJj8GHyDeh0wLRCP0aw/ATPg= =KK8e -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----