You might recommend that to me if running DNS tunnelled through another protocol was a thing I wanted to do. But it's not. I think it's horrible Internet engineering hygiene, and I don't just not want to do it myself, I don't think anybody else ought to do it either. And I think that if end-users understood all of the concerns, they would agree with me on that - I get paid to know what end users would think. On October 3, 2019 10:28:37 AM EDT, Curtis Maurand <cmaurand@gmail.com> wrote:
Might I suggest using PowerDNS's dinsdist. it's an ha proxy that you can put in front of your recursors and It implements dns over https if you want it to. It's open sources and ensures that you're not limited to Google's or Cloudflare's servers which exist to drive advertising at you (I've seen infected ads pwn machines). I have much more paranoid reasons for implementing, namely preventing 3rd parties from getting my histories.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 5:28 PM Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
In article <804699748.1254612.1570037049931.JavaMail.zimbra@baylink.com> you write:
Tools. Are. Neutral.
Any solution to a problem that involves outlawing or breaking tools will. Not. Solve. Your. Problem.
I think in the outside world you'll find very little support for an argument that filtering DNS is fundamentally broken.
Sure, you can do it in broken ways, but it's going to be really hard to persuade anyone that their lives are better if they have unfiltered access to the malware links in their spam.
I expect I would.
But this is not "filtering DNS". It's "making a bodge-handed attempt to REPLACE DNS (well, proxy it) for only one application/layer".
My problem isn't what they're using it for; it's that they've implemented it so poorly.
I live down here in the trenches, John, where "it doesn't work" is the calibre of problem reports I get. When my tools say that "yes, it does", *I'm* the one who takes it in the nads because Mozilla had a Better Fuckin' Idea.
That it will likely cause lots of 50,000ft problems to is just a cherry on the top.
Cheers, -- jra
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