On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 03:55:13PM -0400, Patrick Darden wrote:
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
You really think Michael is malicious in his intent? You've spent a whole lot of time paying now attention around here, haven't you?
I think Michael tends to get confrontational. As, apparently, do you.
Sure. And he's not always right either; none of us are. But he gave cogent arguments to support his point, and you gave us coke machines -- worse, *accused him*, backhandedly, of leaving space for coke machines. See below.
I'm on a lot of the same lists Michael is on. Have been since 1997. I have a lot of respect for him, with reservations gathered from experience. He is sharp, and he has a sharp tongue.
None of which amounts to "wants to hurt people", which is what you accused him of.
No, cute soundbites don't make you an expert.
But in this case, Dillon's right, and you're wrong: your attempt to trivialize the specific issue on point (allocation within the 1918 space internal to a company network) by implying that the only reasons to do it the way he suggests amount to "leaving space for soda machines" only proves in public that you don't know what you're talking about.
No, you are wrong. Your attempt to trivialize what I have to say by calling it cute only proves that you don't know what you are talking about. Bad logic, isn't it? Statement that you are wrong, then "proving it" with nonsense addressing someone's character without addressing the point....
And yet I see tha tyou don't yourself bother to try to prove your argument; you merely continue to go after Michael and I on peripheral points. No pun intended.
Your mislabelling my tongue-in-cheek ongoing obsession with soda machines as Trivializing only proves you have no sense of humor. I remember when some kids at MIT first put their dorm's soda machine on the internet. Man that was cool. You could ping it and find out how many cokes were left, and their temperature....
Sure. Online coke machines are just about as cool as coffee-pot webcams. But they're orthogonal to the discussion that was at hand, and your returning to that well in the middle of a serious discussion suggests that you, yourself, are not all that serious. Once is tongue in cheek. Twice or three times is dilettante.
As randy would put it, I encourage my competitors to hire you to architect their WANs.
Thank you. Your bile does you credit.
I don't know, Patrick; you seem to be the one emotionalizing the argument. I'm out of this one though; we are certainly out of AUP. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin)