Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody has the headroom to get to 10 at least. I mean, most users have no clue about such things.
Lol I'm sure you're no network operator Michael. That's not accurate (well your first statement). On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 8:29 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
It's not always something the service provider has the ability to change.
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On 6/10/22 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Due to the demand being predominately in the downward direction, half-duplex (or effectively half-duplex) systems either allocate more TDMA slots or more channels to downstream, at the expense of upstream.
Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody has the headroom to get to 10 at least. Marketing, of course, but I wonder how many support calls they got because "my internet is slow" from saturated upstream with zoom calls. I mean, most users have no clue about such things.
Mike
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------------------------------ *From: *"Michael Thomas" <mike@mtcc.com> <mike@mtcc.com> *To: *nanog@nanog.org *Sent: *Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:46:24 PM *Subject: *Re: Upstream bandwidth usage
On 6/9/22 1:26 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
With 430 GB versus 32 GV average down versus up usage today, according to your article, this is still not a case for symmetrical consumer bandwidth. Yes, the upstream usage increased slightly more than the downstream usage. But the ratio was still so big that it would take decades for them to join. I doubt they ever will. Consumers just don’t have that much days up to push yet, and probably never will.
Also, a lot of that Usage can be explained by video conferencing during Covid, which has dropped off significantly already.
If it's so tiny, why shape it aggressively? Why shouldn't I be able to burst to whatever is available at the moment? I would think most users would be happy with that.
Mike