On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 8:29 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
It's not always something the service provider has the ability to change.From: "Michael Thomas" <mike@mtcc.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 2:38:29 PM
Subject: Re: Upstream bandwidth usage
On 6/10/22 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Due to the demand being predominately in the downward direction, half-duplex (or effectively half-duplex) systems either allocate more TDMA slots or more channels to downstream, at the expense of upstream.
Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody has the headroom to get to 10 at least. Marketing, of course, but I wonder how many support calls they got because "my internet is slow" from saturated upstream with zoom calls. I mean, most users have no clue about such things.
Mike
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From: "Michael Thomas" <mike@mtcc.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:46:24 PM
Subject: Re: Upstream bandwidth usage
On 6/9/22 1:26 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> With 430 GB versus 32 GV average down versus up usage today, according
> to your article, this is still not a case for symmetrical consumer
> bandwidth. Yes, the upstream usage increased slightly more than the
> downstream usage. But the ratio was still so big that it would take
> decades for them to join. I doubt they ever will. Consumers just don’t
> have that much days up to push yet, and probably never will.
>
> Also, a lot of that Usage can be explained by video conferencing
> during Covid, which has dropped off significantly already.
>
>
If it's so tiny, why shape it aggressively? Why shouldn't I be able to
burst to whatever is available at the moment? I would think most users
would be happy with that.
Mike