All, I'm open to suggestions of how I can improve the puck contact db pages for various isps/nocs/teams. eg: isp name url noc# noc email cust svc# cust svc email security ph# security email etc.. with the various toll-free and direct numbers available, including aim/y!/jabber/whatnot gateways that reach some centralized noc operator too? is the concern about putting data there an access/trust issue? perhaps some sort of registered user foo can be done where people can assign trust for their org (eg: hi, i'm AOL, it's ok to share my postmaster and noc data with anyone, but the security number only with people who i set a trust/access level on). think the social networking foo (orkut, etc..) just some random ideas, since i wrote the cgi foo for the noc stuff years ago and it needs to be updated. - jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.