On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:10 AM Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
Julien Goodwin <jgoodwin@studio442.com.au> writes:
On 20/10/19 11:08 pm, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> writes:
On 07/10/2019 17:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 03:52:26PM -0400, Phil Pishioneri <pgp+nanog@psu.edu> wrote a message of 9 lines which said:
Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing UMass Amherst researchers to use cloud-based ‘logically centralized control’ Executive summary: it's SDN for BGP. Centralizing Internet routing, what could go wrong? (As the authors say, "One reason is there is no single entity that has a big picture of what is going on, no manager". I wonder who will be Internet's manager.)
Centralized Internet routing - sounds like DoH for BGP.
Great idea! Why don't we just run BGP over HTTPS? Everyone already has a browser, so we can get rid of all these expensive routers.
IMO BGP over TLS actually makes a bunch of sense,
Absolutely. And so does DNS over TLS. A lot of sense.
But if you start encoding the BGP protocol data in the TLS session as HTTP so you can tunnel it over a shared 443 port to some distant endpoint, and even traverse HTTP proxies, then it would look like a joke.
Or in the DoH case, would make you wish it was a joke.
isn't julien's idea more akin to DOT then DOH ?