Hi All, My name is Jamie Thain I'm the creator of IPv8. It's not a hoax. I joined this list because, as part of IPv8, I am creating a BGPv8. Inside BGPv8, two new protocols CF (Cost Factor), weigh cost factors along the routes to produce a better metric. It's a hybrid of EIRGP mixed with BGP to create better engineering results. I also as part of CF created Sun Tzu which is the protocol that watches CF and gives you a CF score of reliability. Do I trust my partnership with you? Now, beyond an on-slaught of IPv8 is stupid, IPv6 solves every problem, etc, etc. That's not my discussion point. My point isn't "should I even propose IPv8" my point is what would be the best result for operators? I believe that since IPv8 solves the duopoly problem, it will replace IPv4. So the things to know, IPV8 is NOT a 64 bit addressing system. It is a 32 bit routing system with a 32 bit addressing system. A Routing Number = ASNs plus others. 8.8.8.8 would become 15169.8.8.8.8 https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-02.html <https://l.shortlink.es/l/3ae384c1b8e2eb92749595407c5cf9b87ea3372a?u=12457652> So each ASN in the world will have 3 Billion available addresses. There is a specially reserved group of internal ASN 127.x.x.x so each corp, org, has 16 Million areas of 3 Billion addresses, to replace 10.x.x.x and 100.64.x.x.x I'd appreciate your thoughts on it Jamie