Hey everyone, I think we can all agree that the IPv8 threads have run its course, and Jamie has received plenty of feedback regarding this proposal via the mailing list community. If anyone wishes to continue the conversation, I recommend reaching out to Jamie off list. Kind regards, Ryan Hamel Co-Chair of the Moderation Committee ________________________________ From: Adam Fathauer via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2026 4:41 PM To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@lists.nanog.org>; North American Network Operators Group <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Jamie Thain <jamie@one.bm>; Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com>; Adam Fathauer <adam@arfmail.com> Subject: Re[2]: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. I worked at a Fortune 5 bank that implemented ipv6. We did it at our edge, internally and even with business partners (SBA). YOU might not be familiar with businesses that are not using it - that doesn’t mean no one is. Adam ------ Original Message ------ From "Shane Ronan via NANOG" <nanog@lists.nanog.org> To "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc "Jamie Thain" <jamie@one.bm>; "Shane Ronan" <shane@ronan-online.com> Date 5/4/2026 18:58:16 Subject Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF
You must not deal with very many corporations because I know many that have added v6 to their corporate networks. Think of many in the top 200 companies in the US.
Shane
On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 6:28 PM Jamie Thain via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
Kevin,
I can't fix ipv6 I'll leave that to people that understand the basics.
No one, and i mean no one in corp (that's not a super scalar) knows anything about ipv6 and no one and i mean no one cares.
They know it's on in there os and there's some mystery that some things will break if it's off.
Jamie
On Mon., May 4, 2026, 2:27 p.m. Kevin Tillery via NANOG, < nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
Jamie
And ipv8 is no where on there radar. So fix ipv6.
I appreciate your input.
Kevin
Marco
And ipv6 is no where on there radar. So fix ipv4.
I appreciate your input.
Jamie
On Sun., May 3, 2026, 4:33 a.m. Marco Moock via NANOG, < nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
Am 03.05.26 um 00:30 schrieb Jamie Thain via NANOG:
* IPv6 wasn't a surgical fix for address exhaustion — it bundled
On 4 May 2026 08:26:33 CEST, Jamie Thain via NANOG < nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote: the
address-space change with a full redesign of neighbor discovery, autoconfiguration, header structure, and operational tooling.
That wasn't the issue. The issue is that it takes some time to prepare and do the implementation of another network protocol, regardless how it is called or how it works in detail. No one cares about ARP, nor NDP. It is there and works.
Corporate networks need address plan, firewall plans etc. and that needs to be extended if any new protocol is going to be implemented.
-- Gruß Marco
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