RE: Second day of rolling blackouts starts
Los Angeles rates have stayed the same, and they're not having any problems. (It's a public utility, and thus wasn't forced into competition at the same rate as the private companies.) -Mat Butler -----Original Message----- From: Miles Fidelman [mailto:mfidelman@civicnet.org] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:12 AM To: Roeland Meyer Cc: 'Sean Donelan'; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Second day of rolling blackouts starts On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:
What's wrong with this picture? I see the generators, holding a shotgun at PG&E's neck, and telling the state that they'll pull the triggers if the state doesn't come up with the dough. They're not even wearing a mask! Yet, no one is seeing anything wrong with this and they're acting like it's PG&E's fault.
Is the situation any different in the LA area, where Los Angelas Water and Power is city-owned, and they own a big chunk of their own hydro capacity (or were they forced to divest that)> Miles Fidelman ************************************************************************** The Center for Civic Networking PO Box 600618 Miles R. Fidelman, President & Newtonville, MA 02460-0006 Director, Municipal Telecommunications Strategies Program 617-558-3698 fax: 617-630-8946 mfidelman@civicnet.org http://civic.net/ccn.html Information Infrastructure: Public Spaces for the 21st Century Let's Start With: Internet Wall-Plugs Everywhere Say It Often, Say It Loud: "I Want My Internet!" **************************************************************************
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 03:48:58PM -0800, Mathew Butler wrote:
Los Angeles rates have stayed the same, and they're not having any problems. (It's a public utility, and thus wasn't forced into competition at the same rate as the private companies.)
This all proves that if you're looking for a place to put a data center, you need to keep this in mind: X amount of power takes Y amount of money to produce. You can either pay it to a state-sponsored monopoly, or you can pay it to a private company competing freely, or you can force artificially low prices through pseudo-private companies operating under cap that generates Y minus N amount of income, and watch X minus N amount of power be generated. No amount of legislation will make Y minus N amount of money produce X amount of power. No company that is truly competing will charge Y minus N, because they make more money if they charge Y.
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