North America not interested in IP V6
This article seems to imply that North American networks don't care about IP V6 while the rest of the world is suffering great hardship http://www.msnbc.com/news/945119.asp PS. Please don't shoot the messenger
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Roy wrote:
This article seems to imply that North American networks don't care about IP V6 while the rest of the world is suffering great hardship
Is there any truth to this anyway? Am I too idealistic to believe that IP numbers will be equally alotted to APNIC, ARIN and RIPE and that this has been the case all along? I mean, there are certain entities in the US with /8:s and these might have a specific advantage, but is this really a country/region thing when it comes to open up previously RESERVED space? -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
Is there any truth to this anyway? Am I too idealistic to believe that IP numbers will be equally alotted to APNIC, ARIN and RIPE and that this has been the case all along?
I mean, there are certain entities in the US with /8:s and these might have a specific advantage, but is this really a country/region thing when it comes to open up previously RESERVED space?
At least with current practise it´s not. RIRs get /8´s from IANA at the pace they need them. When the last /8 goes out, then we´ll be quite close to end of allocatable ipv4 space. Expect that to happen early next decade. Pete
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 08:37:32AM -0700, Roy wrote:
This article seems to imply that North American networks don't care about IP V6 while the rest of the world is suffering great hardship
http://www.msnbc.com/news/945119.asp
PS. Please don't shoot the messenger
The technical errors in this document make me seriously doubt this guy knows anything at all about IPv6 (or IPv4 for that matter). e.g. "The versions created 30 years ago were 32 bits long. Each bit could hold a number from one through nine. Under that scheme, there are 4.3 billion different number combinations." erm... since when did a "binary digit" have 9 possible values? and "IPv6 addresses are 132 bits. The resulting list of IP addresses is two googles long, an enormous number. If you want to write it, it's a "3" followed by 38 zeroes." Ignoring the obvious error, I don't know what math's reference this guy is using, but mine says that a google is 1e100, not 1.5e38... The reference to 70% of people in Europe having a web enabled phone made me laugh too... although I guess it could be true - my last 3 mobile phones have all had WAP capability, but I don't know of anyone that actually uses this feature. -- Russell Heilling http://www.ccie.org.uk/ PGP: finger russellh@bela.homeunix.net
.. but anyway: someone informed on planned role of policyanalysismarket.org ? Out of curiosity, mh
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Michael Hallgren wrote: : .. but anyway: someone informed on planned role of : policyanalysismarket.org ? They're headed to webpage Goobersville? It's just a page with a link to a hosting company. WTF??? scott unix> tel policyanalysismarket.org 80 Trying 12.129.224.157... Connected to policyanalysismarket.org. Escape character is '^]'. GET / <html> <head> <style type="text/css"> body { font-family: verdana; } </style> <title>iPowerWeb</title> </head> <body> <a href="http://www.ipowerweb.com"> <img src="http://www.ipowerweb.com/images/logo.gif" border="0"> </a> <p> This is the default page for an iPowerWeb hosting server. <p> To visit our main page click <a href="http://www.ipowerweb.com">here</a>. <br> For technical support, please click <a href="http://www.ipowerweb.com/helpcenter/index.html">here</a> or send an email to <a href=mailto:support@ipowerweb.com>support@ipowerweb.com</a>. </body> </html> Connection closed by foreign host.
Roy wrote:
This article seems to imply that North American networks don't care about IP V6 while the rest of the world is suffering great hardship
http://www.msnbc.com/news/945119.asp
PS. Please don't shoot the messenger
Regardless of the content of the above, let me say that with the exception of "the academic community" (including those in commercial orgs) no one in Europe is interested either. Peter
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Peter Galbavy wrote:
Regardless of the content of the above, let me say that with the exception of "the academic community" (including those in commercial orgs) no one in Europe is interested either.
I think it's a question of price to create the service. Newer plattforms have built in IPv6 in hardware so performance isn't an issue, the code base is maturing which is also a very important step forward. In a couple of years it won't be so much an issue of "purchasing equipment that can do IPv6" but more "turning it on" which is a huge difference when it comes to creating a service and deploying it. When IPv6 is in almost all newer IOSes and these get phased into production environments, I think we'll see much more IPv6 than today. I know that I am not alone in considering IPv6 ability of hardware I am about to purchase that I believe will be around for 3-5 years. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:00 AM, Peter Galbavy <peter.galbavy@knowtion.net> wrote:
Roy wrote:
This article seems to imply that North American networks don't care about IP V6 while the rest of the world is suffering great hardship
http://www.msnbc.com/news/945119.asp
PS. Please don't shoot the messenger
Regardless of the content of the above, let me say that with the exception of "the academic community" (including those in commercial orgs) no one in Europe is interested either.
Here at DE-CIX (www.de-cix.net) I can see that more and more ISP are joining the IPv6 trial (http://www.de-cix.net/info/decix-ipv6/) . Currently already 20% of all ~120 ISP at DE-CIX have IPv6 enabled. Arnold
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