Re: what's going on with yahoo and gmail lately?
A question out of focusing, who know when Google will open Gmail to public? Why wait for Gmail when you can get max 10M messages and 1G total from rediff.com ?
how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content* in my email for the last two decades. randy
--On 21 June 2004 10:43 -0400 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
Why wait for Gmail when you can get max 10M messages and 1G total from rediff.com ?
how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content* in my email for the last two decades.
I'm trying to work out whether in the last two decades I've ever received a non-local email smaller than 100 bytes. Even your gnomic insights exceed this with headers. Alex
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 16:43, Randy Bush wrote:
A question out of focusing, who know when Google will open Gmail to public? Why wait for Gmail when you can get max 10M messages and 1G total from rediff.com ?
how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content* in my email for the last two decades.
How else can you build up the largest spam folder in the world, harddisks are so extremely expensive today. I really wonder what the use for these freemail things is actually. Except for the 'I can be mostly anonymous' part. As one isn't paying, when the service goes down or crashes or deletes your mail or whatever, there is nothing to demand that you get your 1 Gigabyte of email back. I rather pay for a service and know that my email is in good hands and also is backupped correctly and works(tm). The argument for 'I need more than one address' isn't doable either as most ISP's will give one a zillion aliases if one requests them. Then again those are usually with a ~20mb max and that is on the small side. Also on the '1G in 20 years' front, remember that many people think that using images (BMP's ;) and HTML and crap is 'email' while they are actually sending websites over SMTP... Greets, Jeroen
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: [...]
how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content* in my email for the last two decades.
I never delete "real" mail. Slightly over one decade is approaching about 700MB of mail. I'd have expected you to have a much larger mail volume than myself, so 1GB in two decades should be easy. -- In an expanding universe, time is on the side of the outcast. Those who once inhabited the suburbs of human contempt find that without changing their address they eventually live in the metropolis. - Quentin Crisp
On 2004-06-21, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
A question out of focusing, who know when Google will open Gmail to public? Why wait for Gmail when you can get max 10M messages and 1G total from rediff.com ?
how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content* in my email for the last two decades.
Reminds me of that (apocryphal) Bill Gates quote about how 640K RAM ought to be enough for anyone. If people still only sent email with SNDMSG or even /bin/mail there wouldn't be all this need for six MB mailboxes, let alone 1 GB. Given increasing mailbox size, I'm sure it won't take a genius to find out how to stretch MIME to its limits wrt just how much active and multimedia rich content can be crammed into an email. srs
Why wait for Gmail when you can get max 10M messages and 1G total from rediff.com ? how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content* in my email for the last two decades. Given increasing mailbox size, I'm sure it won't take a genius to find out how to stretch MIME to its limits wrt just how much active and multimedia rich content can be crammed into an email.
it is easy to generate a lot of bytes. it is hard to generate content. this list is a rekknown example. randy
In a message written on Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 11:33:59AM -0400, Randy Bush wrote:
it is easy to generate a lot of bytes. it is hard to generate content. this list is a rekknown example.
Content is in the eye of the viewer. While you may have no use for a spiffy new camera phone, and e-mailing video clips to each other a teenager might value having an e-mail account not provided by their parents where friends can send all the video clips they want without running out of disk space. Just because you use a text e-mail client and don't like your e-mail HTML formatted with 250kb JPEG's as signatures doesn't make you part of the majority (at least, of e-mail users). Sadly, far too many people want to send an HTML formatted message, with embedded company logos and graphical signatures attaching videos, or various Microsoft Office formatted documents (if you want to give it a business spin). To the users, that is all content. To you it is likely bloat. I know many corporate e-mail users (eg, account execs, sending flashy proposals) who would blow through a gigabyte of e-mail in under a month. While I never want such trash to appear in my e-mail box, as a provider of network services I take great pleasure that people want to do that to their e-mail, because in the end it is more bits moving across my network. If google helps people send bigger e-mails, with more attachments and more graphics and so on good for them! More bits for all of us to bill. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org
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