RE: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited
No. That's not really a valid comparison. You have a choice about which credit card company you deal with. Network Solutions is spamming you based on information you are required to provide to them. If you refuse to provide them with the info, you get no domain registration. Cute, eh? C Chris Mauritz Director, Systems Administration Rare Medium, Inc. chrism@raremedium.com -----Original Message----- From: Ron_Johnson@enron.net [mailto:Ron_Johnson@enron.net] Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 12:46 PM To: Paul A Vixie Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited I don't really see this as SPAM. It's is annoying, but I would place it in the same classification as a credit card company, one that I hold a card from. sending me junk mail. Since they (Network solutions), have developed this mailing list from infomation you provided to them in registering domain(s). They are entitled to contact you. You may, of course complain, and they (Network solutions), are of course are entitled to take no action. Ron Johnson Paul A Vixie <paul@vix.com> on 11/16/98 02:17:36 AM To: nanog@merit.edu cc: (bcc: Ron Johnson/Enron Communications) Subject: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got. Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you, I've decided to ponder this question out loud: ------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:26 PST To: rbl@maps.vix.com Subject: Paul - value call on this Technically, this is an opt-out customer-relationship spam. I think it is a special case, because _there is no where else to go_. 208.226.58.70 should be RBL'ed, IMHO. Help me.
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Dear Customer,
You are a valued customer and we want to help increase and protect the value of your domain name. As a free added benefit of your domain name registration, we would like to send you our "E-Commerce Update" from time to time. In these updates, we will try to identify helpful information and news that you can use to enhance the value of your Web address. If you do not wish to receive this newsletter in the future, simply respond to this e-mail with the word "remove" in the first line of the message. If you have any questions or comments, please send them to hostmaster@internic.net.
Network Solutions - the world's leading provider of domain name services -- together with VeriSign -- the world's leading Web security provider -- has published a new informative guide to on-line security, "Securing Your Web Site for Business."
"Securing Your Web Site for Business" outlines the options you have to secure and protect your Web site. By downloading your free copy (http://www.verisign.com/nsi/whitepaper), you will be able to learn how easy it is to secure your site in order to protect yourself and your customers.
Issues covered in "Securing Your Web Site for Business" include:
* Why on-line security problems could slow the growth of your business * How to maximize your on-line security at a low cost * How to accept credit cards and sell products on-line---securely * What a Digital ID is * Why you need a Digital ID * How to obtain a Digital ID for your Web site
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We would also like to take this opportunity to remind you of the importance of keeping your Network Solutions domain name records up to date. Incorrect data can result in your next invoice being delivered to the wrong location, and may cause delays when you request other services such as a Secure Server Digital ID. To review your domain name records and the associated information go to http://www.internic.net/verisign/update.html.
Thank you for being a Network Solutions customer. We look forward to serving your future domain name needs.
Sincerely,
Doug Wolford Senior Vice President
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I've cancelled two credit cards because their telemarketers wouldn't stop calling me. I think the point here is that, NO MATTER HOW THEY GOT YOUR NAME, any company you do business with should honor requests to not be solicited to by phone, email, or snail mail. Network Solutions apparently has consistently ignored requests for people to be removed from their commercial email lists. I heartily welcome them to the RBL. --Chris Woodfield Network Operations Center Intermedia Communications/DIGEX
From: Ron_Johnson@enron.net [mailto:Ron_Johnson@enron.net] Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 12:46 PM To: Paul A Vixie Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited
I don't really see this as SPAM. It's is annoying, but I would place it in the same classification as a credit card company, one that I hold a card from. sending me junk mail. Since they (Network solutions), have developed this mailing list from infomation you provided to them in registering domain(s). They are entitled to contact you. You may, of course complain, and they (Network solutions), are of course are entitled to take no action.
Ron Johnson
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