Hmmm ... I suppose I would prefer this community not be made an explicit source of information for a reporter. Implicitly, if reporters must hang off this thread, they should be able to discern impact from perspective given here. However, if questions like the one(s) asked below became "standard" on this thread, then soon the function of the group slants to something other than a forum to aid (each other) in the proper "management" of the affairs of Network Operators ... and may morph into something far less useful. No intention to "scare" ... -gh -----Original Message----- From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:alex@nac.net] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:43 PM To: Gary Hale Cc: lgreenem@cmp.com; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Level3 problems Gary, I understand your statement, but I am sure the gentleman below does not. If you want a story to be done, so that the world can see how something like this can impact thousands of businesses, the best bet would be to help educate this guy so that he has something to write. Are, were you trying to scare him off from doing a story? Personally, I am quote fed up with the issues that the huge providers have and cause, yet never have anyone document it, find out about it, or do anything about it. I laud this guys effort for actually trying to do his job and expose something that needs to be exposed. I am now putting on my level-3 bullet proof jacket, and will be looking over my shoulder for the next 3 NANOGs. On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Gary Hale wrote:
Are you kidding?
-gh
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lgreenem@cmp.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:03 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Level3 problems
I'm a reporter with InformationWeek magazine. I'm trying to get an idea of the significance of this morning's outage. Has Level 3 communicated with you about the cause of the outage? How greatly did the outage affect you or your customers? Was this an unusually large event? Thanks, lgreenem@cmp.com
-- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@nac.net, latency, Al Reuben Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net
Hmmm ... I suppose I would prefer this community not be made an explicit source of information for a reporter.
You're about 10 years too late. Reporters have been lurking on the NANOG list for at least that long. Only the newbie reporters post info requests to the lists. The pros send private emails to list members or go to a NANOG meeting and prowl the hallways. Or did you somehow think that the Internet was a secret network for the members of some private club? --Michael Dillon
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Gary Hale wrote: Hmmm ... I suppose I would prefer this community not be made an explicit source of information for a reporter. Implicitly, if reporters must hang off this thread, they should be able to discern impact from perspective given here. However, if questions like the one(s) asked below became "standard" on this thread, then soon the function of the group slants to something other than a forum to aid (each other) in the proper "management" of the affairs of Network Operators ... and may morph into something far less useful. Give me a break. This list becoming "less useful"?! Alert the press! (or maybe not, according to you) Traditionally, there has been a real knowledge gap between technology journalists and network operators. This has the negative effect of mainstream media presenting incorrect and/or skewed information regarding not only technical issues, but larger industry issues (including things like l3/cogent). Without clued contacts, journalists are forced to glean their information from sources like vendor press releases and sales representatives. Is that how you'd like the public's window into the industry colored? Do you really think that VendorSpeak really needs any more legitimizing? matto --matt@snark.net------------------------------------------<darwin>< The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke
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