Jay: We do this frequently and with a 2501 or a 2514. It must be a Cisco router and sometimes will need more memory. There is NO additional charge for those reselling IP services at CAIS. The CAIS service agreement is also a month to month agreement. Call me if you would like to find out more. Mark Dezagottis CAIS Internet (703) 448-4470 x417
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 21:45:39 +0000 From: Jay Stewart <cosmo@olywa.net> To: Rob Liebschutz <rob@rjl.com> Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Advice on dealing with Sprint
I spoke to a sprint salesperson about 2 weeks ago and was told that I could not get any kind of BGP4 peering with Sprint unless I had a Cisco 7000 series router.
This is my experience also, althought I was able to get my sales weasel to say that they might except a 45xx series if it had sufficient memory, as some "exceptions" had been granted on a "case by case" basis.
As a reseller of IP services they will not manage my router for me, but said I still had to have a Cisco(tm) router, even if I'm not peering BGP.
Jay Stewart Vice President Olympia Networking Services - "Olympia's Premier Internet Access" Phone (360) 753.3636 Fax (360) 357.6160 http://www.olywa.net/
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On Thu, 26 Sep 1996 markd@cais.cais.com wrote:
Jay:
We do this frequently and with a 2501 or a 2514. It must be a Cisco router and sometimes will need more memory. There is NO additional charge for those
(sales junk deleted) Yes, it will work on 25xx, but when you have a peer drop it will kill your 2501 big time. The CPU on the 25xx is used to forward packets and do the BGP4. If you want to try it with 25xx it will work, but I would go with a 4xxx router. Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Tracking the future today! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite 5 Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
Hi Nathan,
We do this frequently and with a 2501 or a 2514. It must be a Cisco router and sometimes will need more memory. There is NO additional charge for those
Yes, it will work on 25xx, but when you have a peer drop it will kill your 2501 big time. The CPU on the 25xx is used to forward packets and do the BGP4. If you want to try it with 25xx it will work, but I would go with a 4xxx router.
I would have to say my experience is different for cpe stub routers for customers that don't need full tables. There is no question that at least a 4xxx should be used for any sizable bgp mesh. However, I used 2500 routers for limited BGP peers at the periphery of my network with no problems whatsoever. I just fed my IGP routes to the 2500 via iBGP, peer w/ the transit AS and take just ^ASNUMBER$ from them. Worked well, no reliability problems, no cpu problems. Obviously this only works if the customer doesn't need full tables. If we were talking about meshing full tables, or multiple peers, then I'd very much suggest using a 4xxx or 7xxx. -alan -- alan@mindvision.com Not Employed Networking, Inc.
On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Alan Hannan wrote:
Hi Nathan,
If we were talking about meshing full tables, or multiple peers, then I'd very much suggest using a 4xxx or 7xxx.
We were talking about full tables, if you are not using full views then sure 2501 will work fine (well as of 9/28/96). Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Tracking the future today! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite 5 Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
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