nathan@netrail.NET (Nathan Stratton) writes:
Well I think NAP's is referring to more then just 1 NAP. There are under 20 providers connected to say 4 or 5 major NAP's.
You prodded me into updating my exchange point matrix. I don't claim its perfect, or more up to date than a few minutes ago. Things change quickly in this business. A few notes to head off a few comments. This is based on information from the RSes, in-addr, pings and traceroutes. I chose cix, the naps, mae-east and mae-west for historical reasons. I may have made a typo, and some providers change their names frequently so I may list the same provider under two different names. I tried to ping or otherwise independently verify that in fact something is attached (not just a IP address assigned). I dropped a few providers, e.g. Databank, that seem to no longer exist althought their IP addresses seem to live on. Also I know several providers are in the middle of building out new connections at several exchange points, but they aren't quite operational yet. Let me know when you are ready for me to ping your router, and I'll update my matrix. 6 CIX Sprint AADS PACBELL MAE-E MAE-W AGIS(4200) Y Y Y Y Y Y ENI(4565) Y Y Y Y Y Y Netcom(2551) Y Y Y Y Y Y SPRINT(1239) Y Y Y Y Y Y 5 CIX Sprint AADS PACBELL MAE-E MAE-W ANS(690) Y Y Y Y Y CompuServe(4183) Y Y Y Y Y CRL(2041) Y Y Y Y Y Exodus(3967) Y Y Y Y Y Genuity(3847) Y Y Y Y Y IBM.net(2685) Y Y Y Y Y MCI(3561) Y Y Y Y Y 4 CIX Sprint AADS PACBELL MAE-E MAE-W Alternet/UUnet(701) Y Y Y Y AT&T(6478) Y Y Y Y DIGEX(2548) Y Y Y Y DRAnet(1746) Y Y Y Y GEOnet(3356) Y Y Y Y Goodnet(4712) Y Y Y Y IconNet(3951) Y Y Y Y InterNex(2828) Y Y Y Y IOS/IDT(5000) Y Y Y Y vBNS(145) Y Y Y Y 3 CIX Sprint AADS PACBELL MAE-E MAE-W ACSI(6467) Y Y Y ATMnet(5632) Y Y Y BBNplanet(1) Y Y Y CableInet(5462) Y Y Y CERFnet(1740) Y Y Y ConXioN(4544) Y Y Y CWIX(5683) Y Y Y DXnet(3914) Y Y Y ESnet(293) Y Y Y EUnet(286) Y Y Y Fibernet(6259) Y Y Y GETNET(5784) Y Y Y Grid(6113) Y Y Y GSL(4000) Y Y Y @Home(6172) Y Y Y INAP(5646) Y Y Y Nacamar(3257) Y Y Y NetAxs(4960) Y Y Y Netrail(4006) Y Y Y Primenet(3549) Y Y Y PSI(174) Y Y Y ThePlanet(5388) Y Y Y Verio/WNA(2914) Y Y Y Websecure(6583) Y Y Y 2 CIX Sprint AADS PACBELL MAE-E MAE-W AIMnet(3763) Y Y CAIS(3491) Y Y DISA.mil(568) Y Y DREN(668) Y Y EDS(5714) Y Y GTE(6541) Y Y Hooked/WEnet(4447) Y Y ICI.net(6561) Y Y ISI.net Y Y ITLnet(5422) Y Y MAI(6082) Y Y Mainstreet(3720) Y Y MIBX(6218) Y Y NASA(297) Y Y On-net(6792) Y Y PacBell(5671) Y Y SAC(5792) Y Y VBC(3344) Y Y Visinet(6261) Y Y Voicenet(3932) Y Y 1 CIX Sprint AADS PACBELL MAE-E MAE-W A2I(3366) Y Abovenet(6461) Y AGAIN(6546) Y AI(6405) Y Airmail Y Alpha.net(4550) Y Argonne(683) Y ARL(668) Y BayNetworks Y Best(3915) Y Cableol(5098) Y Clark(3150) Y CRIS(4908) Y CWInet(4445) Y Dialnet(5552) Y DTAG.DE(3320) Y EEnet Y Erols(6079) Y EuroNet/NL(5390) Y Fermi Lab(3152) Y Fibrcom(3831) Y GEIS(4979) Y HE.net(6939) Y Highway1(7922) Y Holonet(5034) Y ICIX.net(????) Y IDC.ad.jp(4694) Y IIJ(2497) Y InfoNet Y INSnet(5378) Y Internetfci(6292) Y Interpath(3407) Y IXE.net(5418) Y Linkage(4058) Y NCIT(1740) Y NetAsset(6472) Y Netkonect(3328) Y NIS(8001) Y NSN(7070) Y Onecall(6402) Y PBIS(????) Y PCH Y Pilot(3563) Y PIPEX(1849) Y P&T Finland(544) Y Quza.net(6745) Y SCRUZnet(4436) Y SPTelecom(4048) Y Stratacom Y Stupi.se(1653) Y Supernet(5422) Y Telia.net(3301) Y TEN.net(6425) Y UofChicago Y UofIllinois Y Vaultline(6362) Y Viewcall(7379) Y WELL(4540) Y Wirehub(5496) Y XARA(5413) Y Ziplink(6345) Y Zoo.net.uk Y -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Sean Donelan wrote:
nathan@netrail.NET (Nathan Stratton) writes:
Well I think NAP's is referring to more then just 1 NAP. There are under 20 providers connected to say 4 or 5 major NAP's.
You prodded me into updating my exchange point matrix. I don't claim its perfect, or more up to date than a few minutes ago. Things change quickly in this business.
Well, since you posted this in public I will respond in public.
Netrail(4006) Y Y Y
You need to update your list BAD. We are connected to all but one of your NAPs listed. We wanted to be at Sprint-NAP 4 months ago, but they did not have the gigaswitch port, or the physical space for our hardware. Please do not put information about other provider up without checking it out first. NAP Status Speed IP VPI/VCI Ameritech-NAP UP DS3 ATM 198.32.130.58 1/34 Atlanta-NAP UP Full Duplex FDDI 198.32.182.1 CIX UP Half Duplex FDDI 198.32.176.12 MAE-East UP Half Duplex FDDI 192.41.177.228 MAE-West UP Half Duplex FDDI 198.32.136.83 PACBell UP OC-3 ATM 198.32.128.43 1/34 PAIX UP Switched Ethernet 198.32.176.12 Sprint-NAP 4/4/97 FDDI 192.157.69.24 Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
Damnit Sean.. you definitely need to update your list BAD! I mean we wanted to have an OC12 ring 4 months ago, but MCI refused to give it to us for free! Has joining IXPs become a statement of power? I think not. I'll bet there are just as many ppl on 2 or 3 IXPs that have peering with Sprint as ppl on 4 or 5. :) rob
On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Sean Donelan wrote:
nathan@netrail.NET (Nathan Stratton) writes:
Well I think NAP's is referring to more then just 1 NAP. There are under 20 providers connected to say 4 or 5 major NAP's.
You prodded me into updating my exchange point matrix. I don't claim its perfect, or more up to date than a few minutes ago. Things change quickly in this business.
Well, since you posted this in public I will respond in public.
Netrail(4006) Y Y Y
You need to update your list BAD. We are connected to all but one of your NAPs listed. We wanted to be at Sprint-NAP 4 months ago, but they did not have the gigaswitch port, or the physical space for our hardware. Please do not put information about other provider up without checking it out first.
NAP Status Speed IP VPI/VCI Ameritech-NAP UP DS3 ATM 198.32.130.58 1/34 Atlanta-NAP UP Full Duplex FDDI 198.32.182.1 CIX UP Half Duplex FDDI 198.32.176.12 MAE-East UP Half Duplex FDDI 192.41.177.228 MAE-West UP Half Duplex FDDI 198.32.136.83 PACBell UP OC-3 ATM 198.32.128.43 1/34 PAIX UP Switched Ethernet 198.32.176.12 Sprint-NAP 4/4/97 FDDI 192.157.69.24
Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
Nathan, This has nothing to do with 'responding' to you in public. Sean, was just providing a helpful list of providers at the NAPS (which was quite out of date before). It did not target anybody in a derogatory way, nor did I think he intended to. If you had some additional information, just drop him a personal email and I'm sure he'll update it. He did it as an favor for everybody to have some sort of reference (no profit motive, no hostility, and/or otherwise). This "Please do not put information about other provider up without checking it out first." is just not necessary. I'm quite happy he did it and consider the information helpful and hope he continues to provide it. It really is unavailable elsewhere. Ed On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Nathan Stratton wrote: :> You prodded me into updating my exchange point matrix. I don't claim its :> perfect, or more up to date than a few minutes ago. Things change quickly :> in this business. : :Well, since you posted this in public I will respond in public. : :> Netrail(4006) Y Y Y : :You need to update your list BAD. We are connected to all but one of your :NAPs listed. We wanted to be at Sprint-NAP 4 months ago, but they did not :have the gigaswitch port, or the physical space for our hardware. Please do :not put information about other provider up without checking it out first. : :NAP Status Speed IP VPI/VCI :Ameritech-NAP UP DS3 ATM 198.32.130.58 1/34 :Atlanta-NAP UP Full Duplex FDDI 198.32.182.1 :CIX UP Half Duplex FDDI 198.32.176.12 :MAE-East UP Half Duplex FDDI 192.41.177.228 :MAE-West UP Half Duplex FDDI 198.32.136.83 :PACBell UP OC-3 ATM 198.32.128.43 1/34 :PAIX UP Switched Ethernet 198.32.176.12 :Sprint-NAP 4/4/97 FDDI 192.157.69.24 : : :Nathan Stratton President, NetRail,Inc. :------------------------------------------------------------------------ :Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. :Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 :WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 :------------------------------------------------------------------------ :"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about :itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34 :
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