--- leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com wrote: From: Leigh Porter <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com> That is certainly very pretty cabling and most people usually start out with things very pretty. What happens then is that things evolve, you run out of space and have to put kit in other racks, run loads of cabling there and then it gets moved again and then you add more cables and then a fibre guy from some telco comes in and puts something else in on top of it. --------------------------------------------------- We are the telco in Hawaii (hawaiiantel.com) and have been around for 125 years. They'd cut off your hua (number four at http://tinyurl.com/3yuk26) if you didn't do it right. scott