Re: US/Canada International border concerns for routing
With the peering policies of the major Canadian ISPs, you're virtually guaranteed to hairpin through the US on most paths. Robellus (Rogers, Bell & Telus) will peer with you at any of their major Canadian peering points, such as NYC, Chicago or LA. At 10:01 AM 20/07/2017, Hiers, David wrote:
Hi, We're looking to extend some services into Canada. While our lawyers dig into it, I thought that I'd ask the hive mind about border restrictions.
For traffic routing, is anyone constraining cross-border routing between Canada and the US? IOW, if you are routing from Toronto to Montreal, do you have to guarantee that the path cannot go through, say, Syracuse, New York?
I'm asking network operators about packet routing; data storage is a very different matter, of course.
Thanks,
David
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On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman <clayton@MNSi.Net> wrote:
With the peering policies of the major Canadian ISPs, you're virtually guaranteed to hairpin through the US on most paths.
Robellus (Rogers, Bell & Telus) will peer with you at any of their major Canadian peering points, such as NYC, Chicago or LA.
To be fair, Rogers does peer in Toronto. Along with New York, Chicago, Seattle, and Ashburn. -Bill
OK, Maybe I was a bit overly dramatic. One of the big 3 peered with us in a US location, but refused to peer in Canada. I can't recall if we actually did specifically ask Rogers at one point or not. I know we haven't asked recently. At 08:41 PM 08/08/2017, Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman <clayton@MNSi.Net> wrote:
With the peering policies of the major Canadian ISPs, you're virtually guaranteed to hairpin through the US on most paths.
Robellus (Rogers, Bell & Telus) will peer with you at any of their major Canadian peering points, such as NYC, Chicago or LA.
To be fair, Rogers does peer in Toronto. Along with New York, Chicago, Seattle, and Ashburn.
-Bill
-- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409
You mean ROBALLOFUS right? :-) On August 8, 2017 5:33:28 PM PDT, Clayton Zekelman <clayton@MNSi.Net> wrote:
With the peering policies of the major Canadian ISPs, you're virtually guaranteed to hairpin through the US on most paths.
Robellus (Rogers, Bell & Telus) will peer with you at any of their major Canadian peering points, such as NYC, Chicago or LA.
At 10:01 AM 20/07/2017, Hiers, David wrote:
Hi, We're looking to extend some services into Canada. While our lawyers dig into it, I thought that I'd ask the hive mind about border restrictions.
For traffic routing, is anyone constraining cross-border routing between Canada and the US? IOW, if you are routing from Toronto to Montreal, do you have to guarantee that the path cannot go through, say, Syracuse, New York?
I'm asking network operators about packet routing; data storage is a very different matter, of course.
Thanks,
David
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