From: mdevney@teamsphere.com [mailto:mdevney@teamsphere.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:47 PM
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:
You're kidding, right? After what MHSC just went through,
if someone were to
offer a routable/portable /24, my only response would be to ask where you wanted the body delivered. It would be warm and cooling upon delivery.
Portable/routable IP addresses are MORE desireable than domain names.
Yes -- but no one IP is any more or less desirable than any other IP, assuming both are portable, routable, and routed. Not so with domain names. Anyone want to guess how much sex.com would sell for? As opposed to, say, jkl.cx ...
Wrongo, a routable portable IP block is MUCH more desireable than a non-routable one. This usually means legacy space. ISP specific and CIDR swamps are not cool. It must be portable and routable. See, I just created a market differentiator. Rather, I pointed one out. In the DNS world, it's specific string, in the IP-block world, it's the attributes associated with the particular block. BTW, i've been getting comments that some folks are biasing evaluations of some clients, based on the ip addrs of the client's hosts. They know which ones are in AboveNet, ELI, etc co-lo's.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 07:20:55PM -0800, Roeland Meyer wrote:
ISP specific
...works reasonably well if you want to multihome w/ BGP, but cannot honestly justify a provider-independent IP allocation as per registry guidelines, assuming some level of common sense is exercised when planning things.
CIDR swamps are not cool.
Sorry I'm not an authority on what's cool in your book, but why not?
It must be portable and routable. See, I just created a market differentiator.
So, encourage the ARIN to offer micro-allocations today, and upstreams to listen to /24 (or whatever) and shorter out of this space, if and when it does become available. With the backing of MHSC, I'd imagine such a task should be effortless.
BTW, i've been getting comments that some folks are biasing evaluations of some clients, based on the ip addrs of the client's hosts.
Oh my. I thought all one needed to be stylin' was a low AS number. Do tell, which IP blocks are prestigious, and which are not? -adam
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