I don't know how big of a deal is being made about 2.038K on a corporate management level, but it would seem that the ensuing months would be just about a perfect time to address this issue. After all, many companies have teams for the date-field issue right now, and we've gotten pretty good in the past couple of years at analyzing this problem. It would only make sense to immediately move on to the 2038 work after Y2K settles down. Let's just not wait until 2035 to deal with it this time, huh?
After Y2K settles down, the most likely next bandwagon will be so-called critical infrastructure or Cyber-assurance. If you look behind the curtain, you will find many of the people involved in the Y2K hype are actually from the the critical infrastructure programs which got side-lined this year due to Y2K. I expect when they return to their "regular" jobs, they will want to keep the extra money they got this year for Y2K as part of their regular budget next year. I'm hoping the "hackers" will party and get drunk over New Year's, and leave the so-called critical infrastructure alone. If you think you filled out a lot of paperwork for Y2K, and you ain't seen anything yet. I for one sleep much better knowing Microsoft NT is certified C2 ready :-)
I'm hoping the "hackers" will party and get drunk over New Year's, and leave the so-called critical infrastructure alone. If you think you filled out a lot of paperwork for Y2K, and you ain't seen anything yet. I for one sleep much better knowing Microsoft NT is certified C2 ready :-)
Sorry to ruin your sleep. NT is ONLY C2 certified as a standalone workstation. I.e. NO NETWORKING DRIVERS ENABLED. Deepak Jain AiNET
At 08:49 PM 12/23/99 -0500, Deepak Jain wrote:
I'm hoping the "hackers" will party and get drunk over New Year's, and
leave
the so-called critical infrastructure alone. If you think you filled out a lot of paperwork for Y2K, and you ain't seen anything yet. I for one sleep much better knowing Microsoft NT is certified C2 ready :-)
Sorry to ruin your sleep. NT is ONLY C2 certified as a standalone workstation. I.e. NO NETWORKING DRIVERS ENABLED.
I thought you had to remove the NIC, the floppy, and a few other things, not just software. C2 *Orange* Book, not Red Book.
AiNET
TTFN, patrick -- I Am Not An Isp - www.ianai.net ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs, <http://www.ispf.com> "Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle (OhMyGod - Watch out 'Net, I got enable again! ;-)
The point remains, WinNT can only comply with _any_ form of C2 _after_ the lobotomy has been performed. Does it matter to what degree it has to be lobotomized? A lobotomy, is a lobotomy. No "network connections", is "no network connections", regardless of how one gets there.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of I Am Not An Isp Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 6:03 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: After Y2K, critical infrastructure
At 08:49 PM 12/23/99 -0500, Deepak Jain wrote:
I'm hoping the "hackers" will party and get drunk over
the so-called critical infrastructure alone. If you
New Year's, and leave think you filled out a
lot of paperwork for Y2K, and you ain't seen anything yet. I for one sleep much better knowing Microsoft NT is certified C2 ready :-)
Sorry to ruin your sleep. NT is ONLY C2 certified as a standalone workstation. I.e. NO NETWORKING DRIVERS ENABLED.
I thought you had to remove the NIC, the floppy, and a few other things, not just software. C2 *Orange* Book, not Red Book.
AiNET
TTFN, patrick
-- I Am Not An Isp - www.ianai.net ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs, <http://www.ispf.com> "Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle (OhMyGod - Watch out 'Net, I got enable again! ;-)
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
The point remains, WinNT can only comply with _any_ form of C2 _after_ the lobotomy has been performed. Does it matter to what degree it has to be lobotomized? A lobotomy, is a lobotomy. No "network connections", is "no network connections", regardless of how one gets there.
I think Sean was trying to be funny here guys... :P Adrian -- Adrian Chadd Systems Engineer <adrian@ip.versatel.net> Versatel Telecom BV Amsterdam, The Netherlands "Music in the soul can be heard by the universe" - Lao Tsu
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, I Am Not An Isp wrote:
At 08:49 PM 12/23/99 -0500, Deepak Jain wrote:
I'm hoping the "hackers" will party and get drunk over New Year's, and
leave
the so-called critical infrastructure alone. If you think you filled out a lot of paperwork for Y2K, and you ain't seen anything yet. I for one sleep much better knowing Microsoft NT is certified C2 ready :-)
Sorry to ruin your sleep. NT is ONLY C2 certified as a standalone workstation. I.e. NO NETWORKING DRIVERS ENABLED.
I thought you had to remove the NIC, the floppy, and a few other things, not just software. C2 *Orange* Book, not Red Book.
Actually, as surprising as it is, NT4 has been certified to be Orange Book C2 (TCSEC, US, non-networked, December 99) and Red Book EC2 (or something like that) (ITSEC, UK, networked, April 99). The only thing it proves is that TCSEC and ITSEC evaluations have become outdated and worthless, IMHO. ;) -alex
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