These are the same guys that the WA state AG shut down for mail fraud. I'm suprised they have the nuts to pop up again; this topic was beat to death on Seattle.General about 5 or 6 months ago. ---------- From: Geoff White[SMTP:geoffw@precipice.v-site.net] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 1997 4:14 AM To: peter@demon.net Cc: Paul Vixie; geertj@ripe.net; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Paul Vixie did not spam you (this is an automated response) On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Peter Galbavy wrote:

cc'ed to nanog@ FYI

Paul Vixie wrote:

...

Today I started receiving a massive number of e-mail bounces and complaints about spam. I immediately realized that someone had abused the network in my name; sure enough, I shortly received the evidence shown below. I apologize for this form letter response, but I'm expecting another 10,000 complaints and I do not plan to send personalized replies to each one.

[Posting from home, since thats where I get nanog@, but posting with my work hat on - Reply-To: set to peter@demon.net]

Please note that we were hit by the same spammer. The original message went out, claiming it was from one of our customers (another thread last week) when in actual fact it is from an address block assigned the enterprise.net.

We have also been hit by the same spammer, he is using exchangecurrency@forprofit.com as his reply-field (which is one of my clients) Apparently one of the people at forprofit.com send a message to on of the spammers "superiors" (I think he just sent the message to the NOC contact of the host on a reply field that was sent to him :) and shortly after that, their domain name was showing up in the reply field of the spam. I am flushing all mail heading for exchangecurrency@forprofit.com to /dev/null. I've done a little research, aparently the original postings were using a domain... precipice:{root}67-> whois moneyworld.com Financial Connections, Inc (MONEYWORLD-DOM) 2508 5th Ave, #104 Seattle, WA 98121 Domain Name: MONEYWORLD.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact: Williams, Bob (BW747) willie@MONEYWORLD.COM 206 269 0846 Record last updated on 13-Oct-96. Record created on 26-Oct-95. Domain servers in listed order: NSH.WORLDHELP.NET 206.81.217.6 NSS.MONEYWORLD.COM 205.227.174.9 No answer at the number and apparently non of these DNS machines are currently on the net... hmm. This guy is causing my mail queues to fill up with a ton of bounces and flames and I don't appreciate it one bit. The guys at forprofit have some friends at the FBI, but they say that everytime they try to go after these guys, the ISPs won't co-operate :) Geoff White Virtual Sites http://www.v-site.net (415)437-4600 fax (415)437-4601