Just in case people have not noticed... ---------- From: Richard J. Sexton[SMTP:richard@sexton.org] Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 6:30 PM To: edns-discuss@MCS.Net; gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org; newdom@ar.com; edns-discuss@MCS.Net; DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET Subject: Part of the open process? I'm curious about this: ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: COM. 518400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.INTERNIC.NET. <------------------------ COM. 518400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. -- richard@sexton.org Bannockburn, Ontario, CANADA, K0K 1Y0 +1 (613) 473 1719 ===========
Now that is antitrust activity... betcha that is the one in Spain... On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Jim Fleming wrote:
Just in case people have not noticed...
---------- From: Richard J. Sexton[SMTP:richard@sexton.org] Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 6:30 PM To: edns-discuss@MCS.Net; gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org; newdom@ar.com; edns-discuss@MCS.Net; DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET Subject: Part of the open process?
I'm curious about this:
;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: COM. 518400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.INTERNIC.NET. <------------------------ COM. 518400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
-- richard@sexton.org Bannockburn, Ontario, CANADA, K0K 1Y0 +1 (613) 473 1719
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[ On Tue, August 5, 1997 at 09:17:35 (-0400), Marc Hurst wrote: ]
Subject: Re: .COM on the move...
Now that is antitrust activity... betcha that is the one in Spain...
nope, not in spain. 09:43 [52] $ host -aA -l GTLD-SERVERS.INTERNIC.NET gtld-servers.internic.net. SOA ops.internic.net. markk.internic.net. ( 1997080101 ;serial (version) 3600 ;refresh period (1 hour) 3600 ;retry interval (1 hour) 432000 ;expire time (5 days) 86400 ;default ttl (1 day) ) gtld-servers.internic.net. NS rs0.internic.net. gtld-servers.internic.net. NS ds0.internic.net. gtld-servers.internic.net. NS ds1.internic.net. gtld-servers.internic.net. NS ds2.internic.net. gtld-servers.internic.net. NS ns.netsol.com. j.gtld-servers.internic.net. MX 100 rs.internic.net. j.gtld-servers.internic.net. A 198.41.0.21 k.gtld-servers.internic.net. A 198.41.0.30 k.gtld-servers.internic.net. MX 100 rs.internic.net. gtld-servers.internic.net. SOA ops.internic.net. markk.internic.net. ( 1997080101 ;serial (version) 3600 ;refresh period (1 hour) 3600 ;retry interval (1 hour) 432000 ;expire time (5 days) 86400 ;default ttl (1 day) )
---------- From: Richard J. Sexton[SMTP:richard@sexton.org] Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 6:30 PM To: edns-discuss@MCS.Net; gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org; newdom@ar.com; edns-discuss@MCS.Net; DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET Subject: Part of the open process?
I'm curious about this:
;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: COM. 518400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.INTERNIC.NET. <------------------------ COM. 518400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
Oddly enough that one only appears in the NS records advertised in the live version of the .COM zone, and not in the root servers: 09:48 [56] $ host -u -C com. com NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080400 10800 900 604800 86400) com NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080400 10800 900 604800 86400) com NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080400 10800 900 604800 86400) com NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080400 10800 900 604800 86400) com NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080400 10800 900 604800 86400) com NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080400 10800 900 604800 86400) com NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080400 10800 900 604800 86400) com NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080400 10800 900 604800 86400) com NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET (1997080100 10800 900 604800 86400) !!! G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET and D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET have different serial for com -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 443-1734 VE3TCP <gwoods@acm.org> <robohack!woods> Planix, Inc. <woods@planix.com>; Secrets of the Weird <woods@weird.com>
NSI, _as stated in their published five-year plan_, appears to be on its way towards RFC 2050 complaince by continuing the separation of gTLDs and the root zone. Since J is the first letter for root-only servers, J is apparently also being used as the first letter for gTLD-only servers (bad choice IMHO). Where is the confusion? Wait, nevermind... This is NOT an operational problem Jim, get your DNS politics OFF nanog. Stephen At 08:14 08-05-97 -0500, you wrote:
Just in case people have not noticed...
---------- From: Richard J. Sexton[SMTP:richard@sexton.org] Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 6:30 PM To: edns-discuss@MCS.Net; gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org; newdom@ar.com;
edns-discuss@MCS.Net; DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET
Subject: Part of the open process?
I'm curious about this:
;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: COM. 518400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.INTERNIC.NET. <------------------------ COM. 518400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
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I'm confused. RFC 2050 is the IP allocation guidelines. Perhaps you were thinking of RFC 2010 which is Root Server requirements. That RFC mentions that the Root Servers are likely to become disjoint with the InterNIC gTLD servers, but does not require it. The set of servers for the root (".") zone is likely to become disjoint from the ser of servers for any TLD or group of TLD's, including those maintained by the InterNIC. You say the InterNIC has a published 5 year plan ... is this on their website somewhere? I haven't seen it. ------------------------ From: Stephen Sprunk <sprunk@csi.net> Subject: Re: .COM on the move... Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:02:00 -0500 To: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@unety.net> Cc: nanog@merit.edu Received: from bbnplanet.com (mail.bbnplanet.com [198.114.157.21]) by sword.bbnplanet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29144 for <djdubay@csc.bbnplanet.com>; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merit.edu by mail.bbnplanet.com id aa25139; 5 Aug 97 10:06 EDT Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by merit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA26890; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by merit.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:03:06 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by merit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.5) id KAA26853 for nanog-outgoing; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yorktown.paranet.com (yorktown.paranet.com [199.164.131.34]) by merit.edu (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26849 for <nanog@merit.edu>; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yorktown.paranet.com; id JAA25568; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from intrepid.srv.paranet.com(172.16.3.36) by yorktown.paranet.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma025540; Tue, 5 Aug 97 09:02:08 -0500 Received: from spsprunk.corp.paranet.com (spsprunk.corp.paranet.com [172.16.4.88]) by Intrepid.srv.paranet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA11703; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:02:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970805090200.00717b40@pop.srv.paranet.com> X-Sender: spsprunk@pop.srv.paranet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:02:00 -0500 To: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@unety.net> From: Stephen Sprunk <sprunk@csi.net> Subject: Re: .COM on the move... Cc: nanog@merit.edu In-Reply-To: <01BCA177.972CB140@webster.unety.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1626 NSI, _as stated in their published five-year plan_, appears to be on its way towards RFC 2050 complaince by continuing the separation of gTLDs and the root zone. Since J is the first letter for root-only servers, J is apparently also being used as the first letter for gTLD-only servers (bad choice IMHO). Where is the confusion? Wait, nevermind... This is NOT an operational problem Jim, get your DNS politics OFF nanog. Stephen At 08:14 08-05-97 -0500, you wrote:
Just in case people have not noticed...
---------- From: Richard J. Sexton[SMTP:richard@sexton.org] Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 6:30 PM To: edns-discuss@MCS.Net; gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org; newdom@ar.com;
edns-discuss@MCS.Net; DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET
Subject: Part of the open process?
I'm curious about this:
;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: COM. 518400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. COM. 518400 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.INTERNIC.NET. <------------------------ COM. 518400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
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