Maybe not an appropriate topic for Nanog... but... it is becoming a sad fact that the clue level of 'internet engineers' is going down.
Christian
I rather think that this is a sad fact that while throwing billions for equipment telcos are unwilling to provide adequate compensation for anyone with a clue. --vadim
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:21:11 -0700 Vadim Antonov <avg@kotovnik.com> wrote:
I rather think that this is a sad fact that while throwing billions for equipment telcos are unwilling to provide adequate compensation for anyone with a clue.
That much is certain. The number of good Internet engineers / Systems people going out of the business into IT stuff is alarming. The increase recently seems to have something to do with the increased number of telcos buying ISPs. Telcos just don't want to offer what is needed both short and long term to keep good people on board. Regards, Neil. [who works for a telco]. -- Neil J. McRae DNS: Domino Network Services neil@domino.org NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A>
On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 10:21:11AM -0700, Vadim Antonov wrote:
I rather think that this is a sad fact that while throwing billions for equipment telcos are unwilling to provide adequate compensation for anyone with a clue.
Hardware and long term leases can be financed. You have to pay for people with real money. It is the uninformed investors who are throwing the billions at infrastructure, but wages are seen as an overhead. Sad. -- Peter Galbavy Knowledge Matters Ltd http://www.knowledge.com/
I rather think that this is a sad fact that while throwing billions for equipment telcos are unwilling to provide adequate compensation for anyone with a clue.
it takes more then compensation to attract clue. it takes clue to attract clue, as the clueful do not like the ulcers of working for the clueless. and it takes the feeling that there is the will to do good things. randy
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