Sorry, should have clarified. The first ASN should always be the least expensive. When acquired at the same time as a netblock, the fees for research and paper handing should be handled as one request. So if ARIN breaks down the cost of a $500 ASN request to say it costs them in man power to call the upstreams and verify the data is correct, then you should save the $250 on processing the request for the netblock. Best regards, Jamie Scheinblum - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation jamie@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) http://www.fast.net FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions The views stated above are mine and do not reflect those of my employer. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patrick@priori.net] Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 3:41 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? At 01:34 PM 5/31/98 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote:

Uh, hold on a second....

I didn't say to make the first ASN "unreasonably" expensive (and I do believe $500 is unreasonable).

No, you just said "This does make sense - a lot of sense." when Jamie Scheinblum suggested that "unbundled" ASNs be made unreasonably high.

However, with a REASONABLE first ASN fee (ie: $50 or thereabouts) bundling THAT with a /19 when you get your first PI allocation is even more reasonable.

While I agree that $500 *might* be too high, I honestly do not think something on the order of $200 or $250 would be too high, especially as a "one time" fee with the $30 recurring charge.

After all, the justification for the IP space encompasses that for the ASN, so the work has already been done, and the additional effort at that point should be literally a few keystrokes.

Good point.

My proposals to fix the issue with regards to getting a /19 if you're multihomed are also out there; has NANOG seen them?

I have not. But I haven't been following this as closely as I probably should have.

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