DNS Host Handles/Registrations
Good afternoon! This may sound like a dumb question, but... The last time I registered a DNS host it was still being done by NetSol/InterNIC (yeah, a *long* time ago). I need to add another DNS host, and cannot seem to find the appropriate place to do this. InterNIC.net, ICANN, IANA all come up blank. Anybody out there done one of these recently? Thanks! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
I should probably have been more specific. I am not trying to associate a DNS server with a particular domain, that's obviously a no-brainer, using any registrar. I am talking about registering the DNS server itself, so that it may later be associated with a given domain or domains. For example, if I was to just pick an IP at random, build a DNS server on it, and try to plug that IP into register.com's screen, it (register.com) would refuse to accept it, as it would not be a "known" DNS server. I need the process which *used* to be known as registering a a DNS server and obtaining a host "handle" for it. Thanks! On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:39:12 -0600 (CST) From: measl@mfn.org To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: DNS Host Handles/Registrations
Good afternoon!
This may sound like a dumb question, but...
The last time I registered a DNS host it was still being done by NetSol/InterNIC (yeah, a *long* time ago).
I need to add another DNS host, and cannot seem to find the appropriate place to do this. InterNIC.net, ICANN, IANA all come up blank. Anybody out there done one of these recently?
Thanks!
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:49:12PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
I should probably have been more specific. I am not trying to associate a DNS server with a particular domain, that's obviously a no-brainer, using any registrar. I am talking about registering the DNS server itself, so that it may later be associated with a given domain or domains.
DNS hosts are handled by the registrar for the domain. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <adam@flounder.net> | GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA http://flounder.net/publickey.html | 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:56:38AM -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
DNS hosts are handled by the registrar for the domain.
and then there is the excitement of having a host which serves domains registered with many registrars
I've never seen this happen except with NSOL. Every other registrar (as far as I know) updates their host info from whois.internic.net. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <adam@flounder.net> | GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA http://flounder.net/publickey.html | 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A
--On Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:56 AM -0800 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
DNS hosts are handled by the registrar for the domain.
and then there is the excitement of having a host which serves domains registered with many registrars
It's the domain of the host, not the hosted domains. If your host is to be ns1.foobar.com, you register it via the registrar for foobar.com. --- "The avalanche has already begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." -- Kosh
On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:06:49 PST, Mike Batchelor said:
--On Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:56 AM -0800 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
DNS hosts are handled by the registrar for the domain.
and then there is the excitement of having a host which serves domains registered with many registrars It's the domain of the host, not the hosted domains. If your host is to be ns1.foobar.com, you register it via the registrar for foobar.com.
I think what Randy meant was the fun of THIS sort of thing happening: 1) Hosting company registers ns1.big-hosting.com with NetSol. 2) Joe's Bar registers itself with CheapRegister, hosted by (1), so of course their NS is ns1.big-hosting.com even though they are joes-bar.com 3) Fred's Bowling Alley registers itself with AnotherRegistrar, who is more picky about the NS records - so they say "ns1.freds-bowling.com" but give the A record for ns1.big-hosting.com because that's who's actually doing it. 4) Now just *try* and change any of this without leaving bits and pieces of shredded and mangled DNS clue records from here to Zaire. /Valdis
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:49:12PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
I should probably have been more specific. I am not trying to associate a DNS server with a particular domain, that's obviously a no-brainer, using any registrar. I am talking about registering the DNS server itself, so that it may later be associated with a given domain or domains.
For example, if I was to just pick an IP at random, build a DNS server on it, and try to plug that IP into register.com's screen, it (register.com) would refuse to accept it, as it would not be a "known" DNS server. I need the process which *used* to be known as registering a a DNS server and obtaining a host "handle" for it.
ttry this: http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/makechanges/itts/host -b
Thanks!
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:39:12 -0600 (CST) From: measl@mfn.org To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: DNS Host Handles/Registrations
Good afternoon!
This may sound like a dumb question, but...
The last time I registered a DNS host it was still being done by NetSol/InterNIC (yeah, a *long* time ago).
I need to add another DNS host, and cannot seem to find the appropriate place to do this. InterNIC.net, ICANN, IANA all come up blank. Anybody out there done one of these recently?
Thanks!
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
This link is what I was looking for. Thanks! I find it interesting that NSOL is the only one who has responsibility for this??? Shouldn't *all* registrars have this ability? On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Brad Dreisbach wrote:
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:56:31 -0500 From: Brad Dreisbach <bradd@dn.net> To: measl@mfn.org Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: DNS Host Handles/Registrations
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:49:12PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
I should probably have been more specific. I am not trying to associate a DNS server with a particular domain, that's obviously a no-brainer, using any registrar. I am talking about registering the DNS server itself, so that it may later be associated with a given domain or domains.
For example, if I was to just pick an IP at random, build a DNS server on it, and try to plug that IP into register.com's screen, it (register.com) would refuse to accept it, as it would not be a "known" DNS server. I need the process which *used* to be known as registering a a DNS server and obtaining a host "handle" for it.
ttry this: http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/makechanges/itts/host
-b
Thanks!
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:39:12 -0600 (CST) From: measl@mfn.org To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: DNS Host Handles/Registrations
Good afternoon!
This may sound like a dumb question, but...
The last time I registered a DNS host it was still being done by NetSol/InterNIC (yeah, a *long* time ago).
I need to add another DNS host, and cannot seem to find the appropriate place to do this. InterNIC.net, ICANN, IANA all come up blank. Anybody out there done one of these recently?
Thanks!
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:17:02PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
This link is what I was looking for. Thanks! I find it interesting that NSOL is the only one who has responsibility for this??? Shouldn't *all* registrars have this ability?
They do. Don't change your info at NSOL if NSOL is not your registrar. --Adam
At 12:18 PM -0800 11/7/01, Adam McKenna wrote:
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:17:02PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
This link is what I was looking for. Thanks! I find it interesting that NSOL is the only one who has responsibility for this??? Shouldn't *all* registrars have this ability?
They do.
Don't change your info at NSOL if NSOL is not your registrar.
To explain it a little better, I think: If you want to create "NS1.SOMEDOMAIN.COM", go to the registrar handling SOMEDOMAIN.COM and use their procedure. If you want to create "NS2.SOMEWHEREELSE.COM", and they're using some other registrar, you use THAT registrar instead. If SOMEWHEREELSE.COM is registered at $REGISTRAR_ONE, and SOMEPLACE.COM is registered at $REGISTRAR_TWO, and you want to use NS{1,2}.SOMEWHEREELSE.COM as NS servers for SOMEPLACE.COM, then you need to create the hosts with $REGISTRAR_ONE, and then update the domain record at $REGISTRAR_TWO. More complex examples exist, but not aren't often encountered. :) D -- +---------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | dredd@megacity.org | "Thou art the ruins of the noblest man | | Derek J. Balling | That ever lived in the tide of times. | | | Woe to the hand that shed this costly | | | blood" - Julius Caesar Act 3, Scene 1 | +---------------------+-----------------------------------------+
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:41:20PM -0800, Derek J. Balling wrote: [snip]
More complex examples exist, but not aren't often encountered. :)
Try registering nameservers that don't end in com/net/org. It's fun. Greetz, Peter -- Monopoly http://www.dataloss.nl/monopoly.html
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 09:44:22PM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote:
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:41:20PM -0800, Derek J. Balling wrote: [snip]
More complex examples exist, but not aren't often encountered. :)
Try registering nameservers that don't end in com/net/org. It's fun.
"Dear Opensrs support. Please bless ns.blah.cc w.x.y.z as a valid nameserver in the gTLD registry". 'course it only works for opensrs resellers, but I would be surprised if other registrars didn't have a similar method. -- John Payne http://sackheads.org/jpayne/ john@sackheads.org http://sackheads.org/uce/ Fax: +44 870 0547954 To send me mail, use the address in the From: header
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Adam McKenna wrote:
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:17:02PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
This link is what I was looking for. Thanks! I find it interesting that NSOL is the only one who has responsibility for this??? Shouldn't *all* registrars have this ability?
They do.
No, they do not. At least for the ones I use (register.com and SRS).
Don't change your info at NSOL if NSOL is not your registrar.
It appears that the person who "believed" that NSOL was the central repository for this was correct. Changes are made at NSOL, and picked up by other resgistrars via whois.
--Adam
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:58:08PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Adam McKenna wrote:
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:17:02PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
This link is what I was looking for. Thanks! I find it interesting that NSOL is the only one who has responsibility for this??? Shouldn't *all* registrars have this ability?
They do.
No, they do not. At least for the ones I use (register.com and SRS).
When I used register.com they would register a nameserver for you but it cost $15 or $25 dollars. I am currently using dotster and they will let you register nameservers for free in domains that you have registered with them.
Don't change your info at NSOL if NSOL is not your registrar.
It appears that the person who "believed" that NSOL was the central repository for this was correct. Changes are made at NSOL, and picked up by other resgistrars via whois.
--Adam
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of measl@mfn.org Sent: November 7, 2001 3:58 PM To: Adam McKenna Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: DNS Host Handles/Registrations
It appears that the person who "believed" that NSOL was the central repository for this was correct. Changes are made at NSOL, and picked up by other resgistrars via whois.
You can get quirky situations, though, because the NSI registrar division does not update its database of registered name servers from the NSI registry. eg: We have domains, eg something.org, registered with Dotster and then nsX.something.org. We used the Dotster procedures to register name servers, blah blah blah, NSI registry has things fine. When our first user went to NSI registrAR and put nsX.something.org in, then NSI registrar created them in NSI registrar database, and made the contact person whoever our user's domain's technical contact was. (Naturally, this user chose not to specify us as the technical contact, just to make this messier) When we started this, we had two name servers, and then when we added a third one, it found itself in the NSOL registrar database, with yet another different contact person. Now, here is where this gets messy: we added more servers, and the one that was ns3 became ns5, and ns3 got a new IP somewhere else. We went to Dotster, told them to make the changes, changes went to NSI registrY just fine. NSI registAR, however, continues to have ns3.something.org with the original IP, so if someone specifies ns5.something.org in an NSI registrar form with that IP, they'll say "That IP is already registered in the database". If we try to use NSI registrAR form for changing DNS server IPs, then that won't work, because either a) NSI doesn't do something.org, which is true, or b) we're not the technical contact for it, which is also true. (BTW, if we try to create the DNS server first with NSI registrar to avoid it going to someone else, then naturally NSI registrar says they don't do something.org and thus to register the DNS server with the appropriate registrar) Very very very messy situation, and calling NSI doesn't seem to help, or maybe it does, we never figured it out... Generally, these things fix themselves after perhaps a month or two, but it's very annoying when you have your users emailing you about stupid NSI form errors. Also, you have the cosmetic aspect of it: our documentation says that nsX.something.org is 2.3.4.5, which it is in reality/NSI registry, but when our users WHOIS their domains, they see nsX.something.org there as 1.2.3.4, the old IP, and then they email wondering if they did it right. This is why we don't particularly recommend NSI as a registrar... Vivien -- Vivien M. vivienm@dyndns.org Assistant System Administrator Dynamic DNS Network Services http://www.dyndns.org/
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 04:14:18PM -0500, Vivien M. wrote:
You can get quirky situations, though, because the NSI registrar division does not update its database of registered name servers from the NSI registry.
Yes, this is correct. However, it doesn't matter what info NSOL has. If the "host record" they're using matches up with something that's registered in Internic WHOIS, then the GTLD servers will use the correct info when updating the glue records in the SOA. The only effective symptom of having the wrong info in the NSOL WHOIS is annoyance and confused customers. For a real-life example of this, try: $ whois nanovention.com then try $ dig @a.gtld-servers.net nanovention.com soa --Adam
Yes, this is correct. However, it doesn't matter what info NSOL has. If the "host record" they're using matches up with something that's registered in Internic WHOIS, then the GTLD servers will use the correct info when updating the glue records in the SOA. The only effective symptom of having the wrong info in the NSOL WHOIS is annoyance and confused customers.
Actually, no - it can prevent registrations (with NSI only) under a specific set of circumstances, which we came across. Specifically, one IP is originally ns3.mydyndns.org, and changes to ns5.mydyndns.org when another box (in another location, entirely different IPs) comes online as ns3. NSI registrar has decided to make their host record for ns3 pointing to that IP; anyone attempting to register with ns3 and the old IP gets an error, ditto for anyone trying to list ns5, which can't get auto-created because another host exists with the IP. Three phone calls to NSI later, I had three different answers for how they were going to fix it, and no resolution, and no escalation to a supervisor even after I'd requested it. It eventually either a) fixed itself or b) got fixed by the person who was the tech contact for ns3; it isn't _truly_ fixed until those records are out of NSI registrar's database, but it's fixed enough that NSI works. As Vivien mentioned, though, we've recommended to all of our customers that they not use NSI; we've had far better luck with Dotster. Tim -- Tim Wilde twilde@dyndns.org Systems Administrator Dynamic DNS Network Services http://www.dyndns.org/
At 04:14 PM 11/7/01, Vivien M. wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of measl@mfn.org Sent: November 7, 2001 3:58 PM To: Adam McKenna Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: DNS Host Handles/Registrations
It appears that the person who "believed" that NSOL was the central repository for this was correct. Changes are made at NSOL, and picked up by other resgistrars via whois.
You can get quirky situations, though, because the NSI registrar division does not update its database of registered name servers from the NSI registry.
And where they're NOT the registrar for the domain a server is in, they should NOT be recording or showing any such data. But then NetSol's software has always had lots of bugs, and they seem uninterested or unable to fix them.
eg: We have domains, eg something.org, registered with Dotster and then nsX.something.org. We used the Dotster procedures to register name servers, blah blah blah, NSI registry has things fine. When our first user went to NSI registrAR and put nsX.something.org in, then NSI registrar created them in NSI registrar database, and made the contact person whoever our user's domain's technical contact was. (Naturally, this user chose not to specify us as the technical contact, just to make this messier) When we started this, we had two name servers, and then when we added a third one, it found itself in the NSOL registrar database, with yet another different contact person.
Now, here is where this gets messy: we added more servers, and the one that was ns3 became ns5, and ns3 got a new IP somewhere else. We went to Dotster, told them to make the changes, changes went to NSI registrY just fine. NSI registAR, however, continues to have ns3.something.org with the original IP, so if someone specifies ns5.something.org in an NSI registrar form with that IP, they'll say "That IP is already registered in the database". If we try to use NSI registrAR form for changing DNS server IPs, then that won't work, because either a) NSI doesn't do something.org, which is true, or b) we're not the technical contact for it, which is also true. (BTW, if we try to create the DNS server first with NSI registrar to avoid it going to someone else, then naturally NSI registrar says they don't do something.org and thus to register the DNS server with the appropriate registrar)
The good news, though, is the GTLD name servers actually pick up the correct data and run with it. I also tried to get NetSol to pay attention to this, but in the end gave up. I now use this as an example to my clients of why we don't do business with Verisign/NetSol. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Senie dts@senie.com Amaranth Networks Inc. http://www.amaranth.com
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:58:08PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Adam McKenna wrote:
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:17:02PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
This link is what I was looking for. Thanks! I find it interesting that NSOL is the only one who has responsibility for this??? Shouldn't *all* registrars have this ability?
They do.
No, they do not. At least for the ones I use (register.com and SRS).
OpenSRS certainly does. I don't use register.com so I can't comment on them.
Don't change your info at NSOL if NSOL is not your registrar.
It appears that the person who "believed" that NSOL was the central repository for this was correct. Changes are made at NSOL, and picked up by other resgistrars via whois.
No. This is incorrect. Feel free to go try to get this done at NSOL, but I assure you that you will only succeed in frustrating yourself. --Adam
--On Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:58 PM -0600 measl@mfn.org wrote:
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Adam McKenna wrote:
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:17:02PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
This link is what I was looking for. Thanks! I find it interesting that NSOL is the only one who has responsibility for this??? Shouldn't *all* registrars have this ability?
They do.
No, they do not. At least for the ones I use (register.com and SRS).
Register.com certainly does do this. I've used them to make changes to a host that was orignally created by NSOL, but the hosts' domain was moved after its creation, to Register.com. NSOL refused to update my host record when I needed to change its IP address. They said I had to do it at Register.com. A note to support@register.com took care of it.
Don't change your info at NSOL if NSOL is not your registrar.
It appears that the person who "believed" that NSOL was the central repository for this was correct. Changes are made at NSOL, and picked up by other resgistrars via whois.
No, changes are made at the registrar for hosts that live in domains that are held at the registrar. Eventually the crsnic whois database is updated. In my case, NSOL whois still shows the old IP address for my host, but crsnic whois has the right address, and so do the GTLD servers.
--Adam
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
--- "The avalanche has already begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." -- Kosh
At 01:49 PM 11/7/2001 -0600, you wrote:
I should probably have been more specific. I am not trying to associate a DNS server with a particular domain, that's obviously a no-brainer, using any registrar. I am talking about registering the DNS server itself, so that it may later be associated with a given domain or domains.
For example, if I was to just pick an IP at random, build a DNS server on it, and try to plug that IP into register.com's screen, it (register.com) would refuse to accept it, as it would not be a "known" DNS server. I need the process which *used* to be known as registering a a DNS server and obtaining a host "handle" for it.
From NetSol's site: http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/makechanges/itts/host;jsessionid=PMHYXIGLKP2HZ WFI3EFCFEQ
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:49:12PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
For example, if I was to just pick an IP at random, build a DNS server on it, and try to plug that IP into register.com's screen, it (register.com) would refuse to accept it, as it would not be a "known" DNS server. I need the process which *used* to be known as registering a a DNS server and obtaining a host "handle" for it.
Hello, I've got the opposite problem. I have a host record. I can't get rid of it. Some wonderful person registered/parked a domain years ago. He randomly picked a couple of DNS servers to put in the domain registration template. One of those servers happened to be ours. This was back before Network Solutions had authentication, so we were never given a chance to deny the request. I've been trying off and on for the last two years to get our DNS server removed from domain record, but I've had no success. They keep telling me that the domain owner is the only one that can make that change. We no longer run a DNS server on this host, and we want to delete the host record, so we can change the IP address of the host without worrying about the glue record that is unnecessarily stuck in the root servers. Network Solutions will not allow me to delete the record while domain records reference it. I'm stuck. Any thoughts? Jeff -- Jeff Bartig | University of Wisconsin - Madison 1210 W Dayton, Rm B263 | Division of Information Technology Work Phone: (608) 262-8336 | Network Engineering Technology E-Mail: jeffb@doit.wisc.edu |
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Adam McKenna
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Brad Dreisbach
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Daniel Senie
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Derek J. Balling
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J Bacher
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Jeff Bartig
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John Payne
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measl@mfn.org
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Mike Batchelor
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Peter van Dijk
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Randy Bush
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Shawn Morris
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Tim Wilde
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Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
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Vivien M.