Sean made some good points: the +6hr disruption is a far reach without serious physical damage.--Nearly as good a point as Eric's hallarious abstraction-- Disgruntled employees, script kiddies, and all but the most diabolical hate-group are only going to cost a moderate amount of cash in SLA violations, a little theft and fraud, delayed or diminished revenues, and excessive bandwidth consumption. We play Cops & Robbers, and get paid to do it. Hmmm, I think I'm talking myself into going to the bar.... jnull PGP: 0x54B1A25C "!!!!!" It's the little things .... -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Rizzo Frank Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:45 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Internet vulnerabilities Sean Donelan wrote:

Disrupting the Internet is a matter of scale and time.

Quick show of hands. How many of you recently-laid-off engineers have automated router-pampering scripts still running on your old workstations, which nobody at your ex-employer knows about? How many of you still have enable? Therein lies the real danger. Frank "Mr. Wiggles" Rizzo