Folks; An official news item of interest; Network World WorldCom reveals upgrade plans for MAEs By Denise Pappalardo Network World Fusion 1/28/98 WorldCom, Inc. officially revealed its plans to build its first Metropolitan Area Exchange (MAE) based solely on ATM at ComNet '98. MAE-Central, WorldCom�s new Tier 1 MAE, today is under construction in Dallas. MAE-Central will be equipped with three Cisco Systems, Inc. StrataCom BPX ATM switches by the end of February with services expected to be available by the end of the quarter, said Dan Lasater, vice president of broadband applications at WorldCom. http://www.nwfusion.com/news/0128mae.html --Kent Kent W. England Wireline-> fon:650.596.6321 VP of Technology Receptionist-> fon:650.596.1700 GeoNet Communications, Inc. Facsimile-> fax:650.596.1701 555 Twin Dolphin Drive Email-> mailto:kwe@geo.net Redwood City, CA 94065 Web Site-> http://www.geo.net Wireless Text-> mailto:pagekwe@geo.net PGP Key-> http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0CDE69
Kent W. England writes...
Folks;
An official news item of interest;
Network World WorldCom reveals upgrade plans for MAEs By Denise Pappalardo Network World Fusion 1/28/98
WorldCom, Inc. officially revealed its plans to build its first Metropolitan Area Exchange (MAE) based solely on ATM at ComNet '98. MAE-Central, WorldCom�s new Tier 1 MAE, today is under construction in Dallas. MAE-Central will be equipped with three Cisco Systems, Inc. StrataCom BPX ATM switches by the end of February with services expected to be available by the end of the quarter, said Dan Lasater, vice president of broadband applications at WorldCom.
How about your password to access this? Or were you quoting the entire article? Where will this MAE-Central be located? -- Phil Howard | end1it05@anywhere.net eat47me6@spam5mer.net stop1it2@no1place.org phil | suck8it1@dumb0ads.com w8x4y4z8@no75ads6.com blow8me0@no52ads2.net at | eat9this@noplace9.edu stop1it7@spammer8.net blow4me7@no4where.net milepost | no4way49@noplace1.edu no9spam3@spam6mer.org stop8434@spammer2.edu dot | end9it43@anyplace.com crash573@spammer6.com crash779@anyplace.com com | no5spam4@dumb8ads.edu no66ads7@s8p3a2m0.edu no89ads4@anyplace.edu
At 09:28 AM 2/2/98 , Phil Howard wrote:
How about your password to access this? Or were you quoting the entire article? Where will this MAE-Central be located?
Sorry, but I can't find a Worldcom press release anywhere. I don't feel right cutting and pasting the entire article, but the location is slated to be Dallas. (BTW, isn't it scandalous that MFS would copy the PacBell NAP and build a MAE using S'com BPX switches? I went back and checked the nanog archives and compiled a list of all the ISPs that swore they would never connect to an ATM NAP. How many are planning to disconnect from the MAEs when the ATM switches come up?) --Kent
Kent W. England wrote:
At 09:28 AM 2/2/98 , Phil Howard wrote:
How about your password to access this? Or were you quoting the entire article? Where will this MAE-Central be located?
Sorry, but I can't find a Worldcom press release anywhere. I don't feel right cutting and pasting the entire article, but the location is slated to be Dallas.
(BTW, isn't it scandalous that MFS would copy the PacBell NAP and build a MAE using S'com BPX switches? I went back and checked the nanog archives and compiled a list of all the ISPs that swore they would never connect to an ATM NAP. How many are planning to disconnect from the MAEs when the ATM switches come up?)
--Kent
And my question is: How many ISPs are currently getting crappy service from LAN media based MAEs? Ryan Brooks ryan@inc.net
In message <199802030422.XAA06212@merit.edu>, "Kent W. England" writes:
At 09:28 AM 2/2/98 , Phil Howard wrote:
How about your password to access this? Or were you quoting the entire article? Where will this MAE-Central be located?
Sorry, but I can't find a Worldcom press release anywhere. I don't feel right cutting and pasting the entire article, but the location is slated to be Dallas.
(BTW, isn't it scandalous that MFS would copy the PacBell NAP and build a MAE using S'com BPX switches? I went back and checked the nanog archives and compiled a list of all the ISPs that swore they would never connect to an ATM NAP. How many are planning to disconnect from the MAEs when the ATM switches come up?)
--Kent
Its particuarlly bad that MFS starts this when they already have a MAE-Dallas based on their standard cisco platforms. The local ISPs put together an alternative interconnect to reduce costs and MFS comes out with this shit. I know one company that isn't going to be doing any new business with MFS/Worldcom. --- Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc. jerry@fc.net PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708 | 1-800-968-8750 | 512-458-9810 http://www.fc.net
On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Kent W. England wrote:
Sorry, but I can't find a Worldcom press release anywhere. I don't feel right cutting and pasting the entire article, but the location is slated to be Dallas.
(BTW, isn't it scandalous that MFS would copy the PacBell NAP and build a MAE using S'com BPX switches? I went back and checked the nanog archives and compiled a list of all the ISPs that swore they would never connect to an ATM NAP. How many are planning to disconnect from the MAEs when the ATM switches come up?)
Yes and no. Sure a lot of people that said they would not connect to a ATM NAP, but things do change. The current FDDI NAPs are just not able to support the current load and their is no good way to expand them. ATM has changed a lot in the last 4 years. ATM switched have come a long way, sure they are still not where I would like to see them, but they are getting there. I don't think it matters anyone, the whole public NAP idea (I think was a good idea) is dead. -- Nathan Stratton Telecom & ISP Consulting www.robotics.net nathan@robotics.net
--Kent
Sorry, but I can't find a Worldcom press release anywhere. I don't feel right cutting and pasting the entire article, but the location is slated to be Dallas.
(BTW, isn't it scandalous that MFS would copy the PacBell NAP and build a MAE using S'com BPX switches? I went back and checked the nanog archives and compiled a list of all the ISPs that swore they would never connect to an ATM NAP. How many are planning to disconnect from the MAEs when the ATM switches come up?)
Yes and no. Sure a lot of people that said they would not connect to a ATM NAP, but things do change. The current FDDI NAPs are just not able to support the current load and their is no good way to expand them. ATM has changed a lot in the last 4 years. ATM switched have come a long way, sure they are still not where I would like to see them, but they are getting there. I don't think it matters anyone, the whole public NAP idea (I think was a good idea) is dead.
I don't think the point is really worth arguing. It's not the fact that they chose a particular technology. I think it was particularly nice that they asked their potential customers what they should deploy. Who knows...maybe the did ask, but I don't think they asked the right people. Dave (who's waiting to see a NAP built with a GSR (or similar) ) -- Dave Siegel dave@rtd.net Network Engineer dave@pager.rtd.com (alpha pager) (520)579-0450 (home office) http://www.rtd.com/~dsiegel/
... The current FDDI NAPs are just not able to support the current load and their is no good way to expand them. ...
i don't agree. paix's gigaswitches are isolated by cheap private peering. an ixp is still a fine place to exchange packets, as long as the operator of the ixp will run intercage crossconnects for insigificantly low fees.
Paul you cut ritht to the bone!!!!!!! InterNex Information Services | Doug Wilson (DW1983)(DW15-AP) KO6PP Network Engineering | doug@internex.net bgp@internex.net 2306 Walsh Avenue | Tel: (408) 327-2285 Santa Clara, CA 95051 | Fax: (408) 496-5484 On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Paul A Vixie wrote:
... The current FDDI NAPs are just not able to support the current load and their is no good way to expand them. ...
i don't agree. paix's gigaswitches are isolated by cheap private peering. an ixp is still a fine place to exchange packets, as long as the operator of the ixp will run intercage crossconnects for insigificantly low fees.
At 11:28 AM 2/2/98 , Phil Howard wrote:
<http://www.nwfusion.com/news/0128mae.html>http://www.nwfusion.com/news/0128 mae.html
How about your password to access this? Or were you quoting the entire article? Where will this MAE-Central be located?
From: <http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/10024.html>http://www.wired .com/news/news/technology/story/10024.html "Laughlin said that WorldCom is building a new, ATM-only MAE in Dallas, MAE-Central, which will also be one of the major MAEs. Service should be available some time later this year."
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