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From: Vadim Antonov <avg@pluris.com>

Pings are ok, as long as you realize what exactly is being measured. If you're pinging ciscos, you aren't measuring IP packet loss.

And if you are pinging across frame relay your ICMP packet loss might be your packets above the CIR which have been discarded and also not indicative of IP packet loss. #include <standard.disclaimer> _ __ __ _____ ____ / | / /__ / /_/ ___/__ _______/ __/__ _____ / |/ / _ \/ __/\__ \/ / / / ___/ /_/ _ \/ ___/ / /| / __/ /_ ___/ / /_/ / / / __/ __/ / ================/_/=|_/\___/\__//____/\__,_/_/==/_/==\___/_/========== =====