Order it as an "alarm circuit"... At least that's how VZ recognizes it in NY. -Dave -----Original Message----- From: Austad, Jay [mailto:JAustad@temgweb.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:08 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: dry pair Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC to patch through a dry pair between two buildings connected to the same CO? When I called to order one, no one knew what I was talking about. -jay