Welcome to Atlanta, Sorry for the off-topic message, but it's semi-citical(if you rely on your RIM, you know what I mean). Any assistance is greatly appreciated. It seems that my RIM 857 has lost its mind and needs a software download. I have the application and software, but need to borrow a cradle for 10 minutes. If anyone has a 857 or 957 cradle I can borrow for a few minutes, please mail me(ellis@corp.ptd.net) and we will arrange a place to meet in the Sheraton. Thanks in Advance --Dan -- Daniel Ellis, Director of Engineering - PenTeleData LP1 (610)826-9293 www.PenTeleData.net "The only way to predict the future is to invent it." --Alan Kay