-----Original Message----- From: jlewis@lewis.org [mailto:jlewis@lewis.org] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 01:21 AM To: 'Tim Thorpe' Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Anti-spam System Idea

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, Tim Thorpe wrote:

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If these exist then why are we still having problems?

Because the spammers are creating proxies faster than any of the anti-spam people can find them. Evidence suggests, at least on the order of 10,000 new spam proxies are created and used every day by spackers (spammer/hackers).

The relative insecurity of windows and ignorance of the average internet user has created an incredibly target rich environment for the spackers.

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Why do we let customers who have been infected flood the networks with traffic as they do? Should they not also be responsible for the security of their computers? Do we not do enough to educate?

Economics, and convenience outweighing security. We're big, and slow to change. They're small and mobile.

The Barracuda Networks Firewall helped us and especially recently. Realize it's an edge solution, but seems about all we can do right. Some of the users still are using other accounts are getting spacked. Dee Alaska Wireless Systems