HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care?
I just stumbled onto this one the other day. Apparently, Spamhaus has known about this one for THREE MONTHS already: http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL98308 It's being routed by AS11730, aka "Circle Internet LTD", a known spammer- friendly provider that I have come across many times in the past. They in turn are getting connectivity from: AS26769 BandCon AS7385 Integra Telecom These companies are also not known for being especially scruplous either. But I mean seriously, Jesus Christ! Does ANYBODY even give a crap about blatant naked IP space hijacking anymore? Or is the entire net now on its final slow descent into utter chaos? Regards, rfg P.S. The 159.223.0.0/16 block is actually registered to the chemical company Hoechst Celanese Corporation. I'll have more to say about that in just a moment. Meanwhile listed below is some of the snowshoe spammer crud that is alive and active inside of 159.223.0.0/16, even as we speak. 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On 03/30/2011 03:53 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
I just stumbled onto this one the other day.
Apparently, Spamhaus has known about this one for THREE MONTHS already:
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL98308
It's being routed by AS11730, aka "Circle Internet LTD", a known spammer- friendly provider that I have come across many times in the past.
They in turn are getting connectivity from:
AS26769 BandCon AS7385 Integra Telecom
These companies are also not known for being especially scruplous either. But I mean seriously, Jesus Christ! Does ANYBODY even give a crap about blatant naked IP space hijacking anymore? Or is the entire net now on its final slow descent into utter chaos?
This address space seems to be offline now. I for one forwarded info to a contact at Integra, but I can't attest to whether that had anything to do with it. I guess we can call this a victory for the community? I dunno. Jima
For the record, Integra Telecom did have LOA for said netblock. Needless to say LOA was forged on company letterhead with appropriate signatures. Once brought to our attention we attempted to contact customer to no avail, netblock has been removed until they prove otherwise. Randy Rooney On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Jima <nanog@jima.tk> wrote:
On 03/30/2011 03:53 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
I just stumbled onto this one the other day.
Apparently, Spamhaus has known about this one for THREE MONTHS already:
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL98308
It's being routed by AS11730, aka "Circle Internet LTD", a known spammer- friendly provider that I have come across many times in the past.
They in turn are getting connectivity from:
AS26769 BandCon AS7385 Integra Telecom
These companies are also not known for being especially scruplous either. But I mean seriously, Jesus Christ! Does ANYBODY even give a crap about blatant naked IP space hijacking anymore? Or is the entire net now on its final slow descent into utter chaos?
This address space seems to be offline now. I for one forwarded info to a contact at Integra, but I can't attest to whether that had anything to do with it.
I guess we can call this a victory for the community? I dunno.
Jima
On 03/31/2011 12:12 PM, rr wrote:
For the record, Integra Telecom did have LOA for said netblock. Needless to say LOA was forged on company letterhead with appropriate signatures. Once brought to our attention we attempted to contact customer to no avail, netblock has been removed until they prove otherwise.
Thank you for your forthright answer. I can't speak for others, but I appreciate the clarification. Jima
In message <AANLkTikMqBx=CU5AuTr7addyn7U7wbeOWw2qA9wDZNhC@mail.gmail.com>, rr <rooknee@gmail.com> wrote:
For the record, Integra Telecom did have LOA for said netblock. Needless to say LOA was forged on company letterhead with appropriate signatures. Once brought to our attention we attempted to contact customer to no avail, netblock has been removed until they prove otherwise.
Randy Rooney
Mr. Rooney, Since you have been kind enough to drop by, you know, to help clarify what went on here, I wonder if you would mind very much just providing a couple of small additional clarifications. First, could you tell me what job title you hold at Integra Telecom please? (I wouldn't even ask, but you are apparently posting from a gmail account, and that always makes me a bit... well... leary.) Second, because I am actually an ignorant son-of-a-bitch (despite any possible appearances to the contrary), I wonder if, just for my personal edification, you could tell me exactly what "LOA" stands for in this context. (Yes, I really don't know, but would like to.) Thirdly, I'd very much like to know if your company is in the habit of providing services (e.g. transit, routing) to other parties at no charge, and for extended periods of time Lastly, assuming that your company is NOT in the habit of providing services (e.g. routing, transit) to other parties at no charge, then I think that I can speak for many here when I say that I would really appreciate it if you could tell me/us whose name was on the check that was used to pay for the services that your company apparently did provide to the 159.223.0.0/16 IP block, apparently for a period in excess of three months. If in fact the other party involved in this incident deceived and defrauded you in some way, then I hardly think that this information, i.e. the name on the check that paid for all this, is something that Integra has any special obligation to keep secret. Even if there ever had been any such obligation, leagl, ethical, or otherwise, I do believe that the other party involved has now nullified any such obligation by their very act of comitting a rather outrageous and damaging fraud upon your company. I look forward to your response. Regards, rfg
Hmm, thought it was a NANOG prerequisite to be able to do a google search. Should be pretty easy to find this info with that tool in your handbag. With the above tool I've got your phone # and would be happy to call you if you'd like clarification on our process. Please just reply to me off-list. Randy On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg@tristatelogic.com> wrote:
In message <AANLkTikMqBx=CU5AuTr7addyn7U7wbeOWw2qA9wDZNhC@mail.gmail.com>, rr <rooknee@gmail.com> wrote:
For the record, Integra Telecom did have LOA for said netblock. Needless to say LOA was forged on company letterhead with appropriate signatures. Once brought to our attention we attempted to contact customer to no avail, netblock has been removed until they prove otherwise.
Randy Rooney
Mr. Rooney,
Since you have been kind enough to drop by, you know, to help clarify what went on here, I wonder if you would mind very much just providing a couple of small additional clarifications.
First, could you tell me what job title you hold at Integra Telecom please? (I wouldn't even ask, but you are apparently posting from a gmail account, and that always makes me a bit... well... leary.)
Second, because I am actually an ignorant son-of-a-bitch (despite any possible appearances to the contrary), I wonder if, just for my personal edification, you could tell me exactly what "LOA" stands for in this context. (Yes, I really don't know, but would like to.)
Thirdly, I'd very much like to know if your company is in the habit of providing services (e.g. transit, routing) to other parties at no charge, and for extended periods of time
Lastly, assuming that your company is NOT in the habit of providing services (e.g. routing, transit) to other parties at no charge, then I think that I can speak for many here when I say that I would really appreciate it if you could tell me/us whose name was on the check that was used to pay for the services that your company apparently did provide to the 159.223.0.0/16 IP block, apparently for a period in excess of three months.
If in fact the other party involved in this incident deceived and defrauded you in some way, then I hardly think that this information, i.e. the name on the check that paid for all this, is something that Integra has any special obligation to keep secret. Even if there ever had been any such obligation, leagl, ethical, or otherwise, I do believe that the other party involved has now nullified any such obligation by their very act of comitting a rather outrageous and damaging fraud upon your company.
I look forward to your response.
Regards, rfg
In message <AANLkTinVLqeFVYkc91d8P-N9zvDGR5PrXREypTuiM0jg@mail.gmail.com>, rr <rooknee@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, thought it was a NANOG prerequisite to be able to do a google search. Should be pretty easy to find this info with that tool in your handbag.
Which info is that, exactly? Your title at Integra Telecom? Umm... well... yes.... I guess this is you, right? http://www.linkedin.com/pub/randy-rooney/6/9ab/22a So, are you THE Engineering Manager, or merely AN Engineering Manager at Integra Telecom? I'm guessing that it is a big enough outfit that you probably have more than one. (Sorry, but I can't help snickering a bit at your _prior_ employment. As I feel sure you are already painfully aware, having that on your resume does not exactly inspire a whole lotta confidence in the notion that you are a straight shooter. The words ``cover up'' are the ones that come most immediately to mind.)
With the above tool I've got your phone # and would be happy to call you if you'd like clarification on our process.
No thanks. I didn't ask for "clarification" of your "process" (whatever the hell THAT might mean), and frankly it doesn't interest me. Your process is... well... your process. Whatever it may be, it belongs to you and you should probably keep it to yourself. (Who knows? Since business processes are now patentable, maybe someday you can get a patent on it!) I did however ask for the name of the crook whose name was on the check that paid for the hijacked space routing. Is that something you can respond to, or no? If not, why not? Was Integra Telecom _actually_ defrauded? If so, who defrauded you? Did your customer, Circle Internet defraud you? If you are claining that THEY are also an innocent party in this, then who defrauded them? Whose name was on the check that THEY cashed? It really is a rather simple question, and doesn't require an elaborate, convoluted, or lengthy digression into the details of your "process". Ya know, maybe it's just me, but it would seem to me that that if either you or your customer, Circle Internet, were in fact defrauded in this case, that both of you would be altogether ready, willing, and indeed eager to ``out'' the actual crooked perpetrator... you know... instead of, like, hiding the perp's identity and thus helping him to cover his tracks. But I guess that's just me. (When somebody cheats _me_, I am not myself in the habit of then going out of my way to protect him.) Don't misunderstand me. If your company was in fact dedrauded, then allow me to express my sincere condolences for your loss. Or would it be more accurate to say your gain? You DID cash the check right? I mean your company does NOT have a policy of granting everybody three months of free service, right?
Please just reply to me off-list.
No thanks. As Jodie Foster said in the movie Contact, ``This isn't a person to person call.'' Crooks, hijacking, and mass spamming affect everybody on the whole Internet. I didn't ask for the name of the crook who signed the check just for my private or personal edification. Other ISPs should know who they need to be on the lookout for. I can assure you that just because YOU have now stopped routing space for this crook, that doesn't mean that he's going to just fold up his tent and slink quietly away into oblivion. In fact I already have evidence in hand that he's still got both IP space and snowshoe spamming domains located elsewhere (including elsewhere on Circle Internet, see below) that he is continuing to use, even as we speak. On the other hand, of course, if Integra and/or Circle Internet were in fact ``in on the game'' from the get-go, then in that case I could well and truly understand why both of your companies might now be reluctant to give up your cohort. Regards, rfg P.S. I gather that nobody at your place even so much as raised an eyebrow when tiny little Circle Internet, a company whose biggest _legitimate_ IP block prior to this incident was a mere /21, suddenly showed up on your doorstep asking to have an entire fresh new /16, belonging to an major, internationally known chemical company routed for them, correct? P.P.S. OK, so you are reluctant to give up the actual hijacker. So let's just skip that for now. Instead how about if you just tell us who owns the followng domain names which are all getting DNS from Circle Internet IP space, even as we speak. And no, I _do not_ want you to just regurgitate the fradulent bull puckey that's present within the relevant WHOIS records. (To paraphrase Red Riding Hood "My my grandma! What a lot of domains you have!" Odd that all of them were created so recently, and that none of them seem even have associated web sites. But again, I'm sure that I'm the only one in the Universe who finds any of that odd. 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On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
(Sorry, but I can't help snickering a bit at your _prior_ employment. As I feel sure you are already painfully aware, having that on your resume does not exactly inspire a whole lotta confidence in the notion that you are a straight shooter. The words ``cover up'' are the ones that come most immediately to mind.)
Awww, that makes me "not a straight shooter"? I was at EBS, I just happened to join a company who's management weren't straight shooters. And what all these accusations and attacks have to do with the thread, I have no idea.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Brett Watson <brett@the-watsons.org> wrote:
On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
(Sorry, but I can't help snickering a bit at your _prior_ employment. As I feel sure you are already painfully aware, having that on your resume does not exactly inspire a whole lotta confidence in the notion that you are a straight shooter. The words ``cover up'' are the ones that come most immediately to mind.)
Awww, that makes me "not a straight shooter"? I was at EBS, I just happened to join a company who's management weren't straight shooters.
And what all these accusations and attacks have to do with the thread, I have no idea.
Apparently it has to do with the fact that you can only pay for IP service via check; credit card billing has been abolished. If you don't pay by check, you're a criminal--that's all there is to it. Matt
Why does it matter what his position is? Sounds like they had a forged LOA from the customer and that they fixed the issue when they found out about it. I am not sure you can ask too much more from a network operator, the best thing we can hope for are companies that will cancel customers if they are abuse sources, that is exactly what happened here. Lots of people are posting on nanog with outside email addresses because they don't want to be tied too closely to the corporation for which they work, it seems totally reasonable to me especially given the mix of personal and professional ties a lot of us have in this community. The main issue here is getting results and it sounds like that happened here pretty quickly. Most technical types are good people and for the most part will work though their corporate BS to get abuse issues solved as quickly as they can. I know we do try to resolve abuse quickly and people who are nice and provide data up front just help expedite the process further, acting like a jerk is by far the least productive way to engage people in the nanog community. John -----Original Message----- From: Ronald F. Guilmette [mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:46 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care? In message <AANLkTinVLqeFVYkc91d8P-N9zvDGR5PrXREypTuiM0jg@mail.gmail.com>, rr <rooknee@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, thought it was a NANOG prerequisite to be able to do a google search. Should be pretty easy to find this info with that tool in your handbag.
Which info is that, exactly? Your title at Integra Telecom? Umm... well... yes.... I guess this is you, right? http://www.linkedin.com/pub/randy-rooney/6/9ab/22a So, are you THE Engineering Manager, or merely AN Engineering Manager at Integra Telecom? I'm guessing that it is a big enough outfit that you probably have more than one. (Sorry, but I can't help snickering a bit at your _prior_ employment. As I feel sure you are already painfully aware, having that on your resume does not exactly inspire a whole lotta confidence in the notion that you are a straight shooter. The words ``cover up'' are the ones that come most immediately to mind.)
With the above tool I've got your phone # and would be happy to call you if you'd like clarification on our process.
No thanks. I didn't ask for "clarification" of your "process" (whatever the hell THAT might mean), and frankly it doesn't interest me. Your process is... well... your process. Whatever it may be, it belongs to you and you should probably keep it to yourself. (Who knows? Since business processes are now patentable, maybe someday you can get a patent on it!) I did however ask for the name of the crook whose name was on the check that paid for the hijacked space routing. Is that something you can respond to, or no? If not, why not? Was Integra Telecom _actually_ defrauded? If so, who defrauded you? Did your customer, Circle Internet defraud you? If you are claining that THEY are also an innocent party in this, then who defrauded them? Whose name was on the check that THEY cashed? It really is a rather simple question, and doesn't require an elaborate, convoluted, or lengthy digression into the details of your "process". Ya know, maybe it's just me, but it would seem to me that that if either you or your customer, Circle Internet, were in fact defrauded in this case, that both of you would be altogether ready, willing, and indeed eager to ``out'' the actual crooked perpetrator... you know... instead of, like, hiding the perp's identity and thus helping him to cover his tracks. But I guess that's just me. (When somebody cheats _me_, I am not myself in the habit of then going out of my way to protect him.) Don't misunderstand me. If your company was in fact dedrauded, then allow me to express my sincere condolences for your loss. Or would it be more accurate to say your gain? You DID cash the check right? I mean your company does NOT have a policy of granting everybody three months of free service, right?
Please just reply to me off-list.
No thanks. As Jodie Foster said in the movie Contact, ``This isn't a person to person call.'' Crooks, hijacking, and mass spamming affect everybody on the whole Internet. I didn't ask for the name of the crook who signed the check just for my private or personal edification. Other ISPs should know who they need to be on the lookout for. I can assure you that just because YOU have now stopped routing space for this crook, that doesn't mean that he's going to just fold up his tent and slink quietly away into oblivion. In fact I already have evidence in hand that he's still got both IP space and snowshoe spamming domains located elsewhere (including elsewhere on Circle Internet, see below) that he is continuing to use, even as we speak. On the other hand, of course, if Integra and/or Circle Internet were in fact ``in on the game'' from the get-go, then in that case I could well and truly understand why both of your companies might now be reluctant to give up your cohort. Regards, rfg P.S. I gather that nobody at your place even so much as raised an eyebrow when tiny little Circle Internet, a company whose biggest _legitimate_ IP block prior to this incident was a mere /21, suddenly showed up on your doorstep asking to have an entire fresh new /16, belonging to an major, internationally known chemical company routed for them, correct? P.P.S. OK, so you are reluctant to give up the actual hijacker. So let's just skip that for now. Instead how about if you just tell us who owns the followng domain names which are all getting DNS from Circle Internet IP space, even as we speak. And no, I _do not_ want you to just regurgitate the fradulent bull puckey that's present within the relevant WHOIS records. (To paraphrase Red Riding Hood "My my grandma! What a lot of domains you have!" Odd that all of them were created so recently, and that none of them seem even have associated web sites. But again, I'm sure that I'm the only one in the Universe who finds any of that odd. 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In message <AF24AE2D4A4D334FB9B667985E2AE763997FE7@mail1-sea.office.spectrumnet .us>, John van Oppen <jvanoppen@spectrumnet.us> wrote:
Why does it matter what his position is?
Well, if he was, you know, just the janitor or something, then I think that we could all safely assume that his opinions are...well.. his opinions, and that they should not be improperly or unfairly construed as official statements on behalf of the company. Wouldn't you agree? I, for one, certainly don't want to unfairly interpret some personal comment on the part of some worker bee as being the equivalent of an official company pronouncement. Do you?
Sounds like they had a forged LOA from the customer...
And they provided service for free?? For three months?? All just on the basis of a sheet of paper that any fool could trivially manufacture in 15 minutes or less at the local Kinkos? Sorry. No. I think not. Money was paid. Money changed hands. Which hands did it come from? From the hijacker crook, obviously. But which one? (There are so many different crooks on the Internet these days.) What was this one's name? Not the phony blaoney name that was on the LOA. That really doesn't matter. The name on the check.
...and that they fixed the issue...
I'm sorry to disagree, but no, actually, it didn't. As I pointed out in the very message that you are responding to, nothing here is ``fixed'', nothing here is ``resolved'', and the evidence seems to indi- cate that the exact same snowshoe spammer who was spamming out of the hijacked block that was getting connectivity from Circle Internet and also, indirectly, from Integra Telecom is still very much alive and well and still operating within the UN-hijacked portion of Circle Internet's IP space. I understand that now that the _hijacking_ part of this tiny drama has been terminated, some folks, here and elsewhere, would prefer now to just roll over and go back to sleep. That's your choice and you're welcome to it. I, however, would sort-of still like to see the perp being escorted to the exit of the entire Internet, along with a swift kick in the ass and an admonition never to come back again. That clearly hasn't happened yet, and what with all the corporate CYA going on it doesn't even look probable any time soon.
I am not sure you can ask too much more from a network operator
Yea. Gee, I guess you're right. Expecting honesty, courtesy, forthrightness, and enough information to make sure that other networks will not be similarly tainted in the future is just completely out of the question. That's apparently far too much care and compassion for one's community and one's fellow man to expect from any CORPORTATION, after all. Please excuse me for harboring patently ridiculous hopes and/or expectations.
the best thing we can hope for are companies that will cancel customers if they are abuse sources...
That may be the best that _you_ are capable of hoping for. Me personally? I set my sights a little higher. Maybe someday... perhaps not in my lifetime, but someday... when there is a lot less corporate CYA and just a little bit more civic responsibility, then maybe we really could get these kinds of crooks off the Internet in a way so that they don't just reappear someplace else a month or two down the road, when things have quieted down. Look, here's two scenarios. See if you can fit them both together in a way that makes sense. I can't. If I go into Macy's, charge a pair of shoes on my Macy's credit card, and then, when I get my monthy charge account bill, I simply don't pay it, then within 30 days, Equifax, Experian and TransUnion will all know about that, and they will go around blabbing to every other merchant in the world, and pretty soon I won't be able to buy even a stick of bubble gum on credit. (Note that _Macy's_ apparently has no trouble ratting out _it's_ less than savory customers.) If however I collude with some friendly and/or greedy ISP/NSP or two on the Internet, hijack a /16 or two, get caught, and get publically outted, then I can be reasonably assured that all of the greedy companies, all the way up and down the entire networking food chain will instantly clam up, you know, just to avoid having to admit that they profited from my scheme too. So I can also be reasonably sure, going in, that even if I'm caught, not only will I not be punished in any way, but better still, I'll be able to just wait a few weeks and then just go down the street to the next greedy ISP/NSP and pull the exact same scam all over again. And nobody except the companies that I've paid off will ever even know my name. If this all makes sense to anybody, then please do explain it to me, because I'm not seeing it. All I see is a sure-fire recipie for an endless cavalcade of IP hijacking incidents. For the perp, there is simply no downside whatso- ever, even if he gets caught, so he's just gonna do it over and over and over again. Which part of this is either non-clear or non-obvious? Regards, rfg
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