My only problem with Pay Up Front is that some customers are going to be dead beat about paying us. I would want to make sure that there was some recourse to collecting our money or having the domain placed on hold until fees are paid. The only way that I can see doing that now is to register the domain under our name and then transfer it later once we get paid. Way to much work. Another way is to take the abusers to court and nail them. Make the penalty to high and they will leave. just my $.002 worth at 3am in the morning with US West blowing up Cascade switches At 11:22 PM 1/18/99 -0600, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Daniel Senie wrote:
Actually, at this point I'd be happy to supply a credit card or a funded InterNIC account number along with applications. Money up front may well be the only way to clobber speculators.
Hammer. Nail. Head. >BANG<
Attack the root of the problem: people have made a market of domain speculation. Raise the stakes for them, and you'll find that they'll be more inclined to make a living some other way. The current model costs them absolutely -nothing-, a zero-cost marketplace for speculators.
I have -no- problem with a "payment up front" requirement. I'd hope that anyone serious about doing real domain management would be willing to pay in advance.
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My take would be register them as the billing contact and remain as the adminstrative contacts - the NIC should then have a page set up that the custoemr can go with a confirmation number to add their credit card info directly - they could afford them a 3 day window to do so - or the domain would be deleted. They could also tag a domain that has been reregistered a 2nd time and demand payment up front before it is registered this time - that gives the customer 1 bite at convenience - and then hve to put up in order to ever actually get that particular domain. On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, John M. Brown wrote:
My only problem with Pay Up Front is that some customers are going to be dead beat about paying us. I would want to make sure that there was some recourse to collecting our money or having the domain placed on hold until fees are paid. The only way that I can see doing that now is to register the domain under our name and then transfer it later once we get paid. Way to much work.
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John M. Brown wrote:
My only problem with Pay Up Front is that some customers are going to be dead beat about paying us. I would want to make sure that
That's your problem. You choose your business model and I'll choose mine.
there was some recourse to collecting our money or having the domain placed on hold until fees are paid. The only way that I can see doing that now is to register the domain under our name and then transfer it later once we get paid. Way to much work.
You have a number of choices here: 1. Require your customers to pay up front, too. 2. Charge them extra for the pre-payment and transfer costs. 3. Register them as the billing contact for their own domain. We happen to do #3 because it keeps costs lowest, and fully establishes the concept that they own their own domain names, not us.
Another way is to take the abusers to court and nail them. Make the penalty to high and they will leave.
I'd prefer to have the problem solved well before 2002. -- -- *-----------------------------* Phil Howard KA9WGN * -- -- | Inturnet, Inc. | Director of Internet Services | -- -- | Business Internet Solutions | eng at intur.net | -- -- *-----------------------------* phil at intur.net * --
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