EU elections - piratenpartei.net censored
Hello, right during the election the website piratenpartei.net of the german pirates party gets censored by the hoster. alfahosting.info Good advertising, isn't it? Interestingly enough their website is down too. Afraid of emails I guess. Kind regards Peter -- Peter and Karin Dambier Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana Rimbacher Strasse 16 D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher +49(6209)795-816 (Telekom) +49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de) mail: peter@peter-dambier.de http://www.peter-dambier.de/ http://iason.site.voila.fr/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/ ULA= fd80:4ce1:c66a::/48
On Sunday 07 June 2009 23:16:12 Peter Dambier wrote:
Hello,
right during the election the website
piratenpartei.net
of the german pirates party gets censored by the hoster.
alfahosting.info
Good advertising, isn't it?
Interestingly enough their website is down too. Afraid of emails I guess.
Perhaps the election night on which they finally won a seat might - MIGHT - have posed a few load issues?
On 08.06.2009 00:16 Peter Dambier wrote
right during the election the website
piratenpartei.net
of the german pirates party gets censored by the hoster.
really censored. Do you know why alfahosting.info turned down the site?
alfahosting.info
Good advertising, isn't it?
Interestingly enough their website is down too. Afraid of emails I guess.
try http://www.piratenpartei.de/ instead. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arnold@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333
Thank you Arnold. Yes, we have not put all our eggs in the same nest :) As far as we could find out somebody has put us into an adult filter. That is what triggered the reaction of the hoster. There is a movement of the governing parties in germany to install a mandatory adult filter controled only by a single policeman. That is excactly what the pirates party is opposing. Kind regards Peter Arnold Nipper wrote:
On 08.06.2009 00:16 Peter Dambier wrote
right during the election the website
piratenpartei.net
of the german pirates party gets censored by the hoster.
really censored. Do you know why alfahosting.info turned down the site?
alfahosting.info
Good advertising, isn't it?
Interestingly enough their website is down too. Afraid of emails I guess.
try http://www.piratenpartei.de/ instead.
Arnold
-- Peter and Karin Dambier Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana Rimbacher Strasse 16 D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher +49(6209)795-816 (Telekom) +49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de) mail: peter@peter-dambier.de http://www.peter-dambier.de/ http://iason.site.voila.fr/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/ ULA= fd80:4ce1:c66a::/48
Thats fine - but one thing that I can't tolerate about the Pirates party is this apparent non-sense that there should be no such thing as copyright. AFAIC, making an illegal download of software or music is stealing and is no different from going into a shop and shoplifting some merchandise. Someone is making a living from writing that code or making that music. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dambier" <peter@peter-dambier.de> To: <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: EU elections - piratenpartei.net censored
Thank you Arnold.
Yes, we have not put all our eggs in the same nest :)
As far as we could find out somebody has put us into an adult filter. That is what triggered the reaction of the hoster.
There is a movement of the governing parties in germany to install a mandatory adult filter controled only by a single policeman.
That is excactly what the pirates party is opposing.
Kind regards Peter
Arnold Nipper wrote:
On 08.06.2009 00:16 Peter Dambier wrote
right during the election the website
piratenpartei.net
of the german pirates party gets censored by the hoster.
really censored. Do you know why alfahosting.info turned down the site?
alfahosting.info
Good advertising, isn't it?
Interestingly enough their website is down too. Afraid of emails I guess.
try http://www.piratenpartei.de/ instead.
Arnold
-- Peter and Karin Dambier Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana Rimbacher Strasse 16 D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher +49(6209)795-816 (Telekom) +49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de) mail: peter@peter-dambier.de http://www.peter-dambier.de/ http://iason.site.voila.fr/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/ ULA= fd80:4ce1:c66a::/48
Copyright Laws, are just that. Laws. And the can be changed if The People desire it. The issue I see with copyright TODAY is that there is effectively no entry of anything into the Public Domain in any reasonable sort of time. Traditionally that's been the benefit derived by The People for giving special Copyright privileges. So what do The People get out of all this? There's that and the abuse, where content which clearly fails to advance neither Science nor Useful Arts -- the Constitutionally Mandated extent of Copyright authority granted to the Legislature -- is Copyrighted. What Science or Useful Art is Hannah Montana's latest CD advancing, making it worthy of special privilege? On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:18 PM, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) <nanog2@adns.net>wrote:
Thats fine - but one thing that I can't tolerate about the Pirates party is this apparent non-sense that there should be no such thing as copyright. AFAIC, making an illegal download of software or music is stealing and is no different from going into a shop and shoplifting some merchandise.
Someone is making a living from writing that code or making that music.
John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dambier" <peter@peter-dambier.de
To: <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: EU elections - piratenpartei.net censored
Thank you Arnold.
Yes, we have not put all our eggs in the same nest :)
As far as we could find out somebody has put us into an adult filter. That is what triggered the reaction of the hoster.
There is a movement of the governing parties in germany to install a mandatory adult filter controled only by a single policeman.
That is excactly what the pirates party is opposing.
Kind regards Peter
Arnold Nipper wrote:
On 08.06.2009 00:16 Peter Dambier wrote
right during the election the website
piratenpartei.net
of the german pirates party gets censored by the hoster.
really censored. Do you know why alfahosting.info turned down the site?
alfahosting.info
Good advertising, isn't it?
Interestingly enough their website is down too. Afraid of emails I guess.
try http://www.piratenpartei.de/ instead.
Arnold
-- Peter and Karin Dambier Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana Rimbacher Strasse 16 D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher +49(6209)795-816 (Telekom) +49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de) mail: peter@peter-dambier.de http://www.peter-dambier.de/ http://iason.site.voila.fr/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/ ULA= fd80:4ce1:c66a::/48
Why is there *never* a moderator around when you need one? :-) Mike Lieman wrote (on Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 09:37:42PM -0400):
Copyright Laws, are just that. Laws. And the can be changed if The People desire it.
The issue I see with copyright TODAY is that there is effectively no entry of anything into the Public Domain in any reasonable sort of time. Traditionally that's been the benefit derived by The People for giving special Copyright privileges.
So what do The People get out of all this?
There's that and the abuse, where content which clearly fails to advance neither Science nor Useful Arts -- the Constitutionally Mandated extent of Copyright authority granted to the Legislature -- is Copyrighted.
What Science or Useful Art is Hannah Montana's latest CD advancing, making it worthy of special privilege?
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:18 PM, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) <nanog2@adns.net>wrote:
Thats fine - but one thing that I can't tolerate about the Pirates party is this apparent non-sense that there should be no such thing as copyright. AFAIC, making an illegal download of software or music is stealing and is no different from going into a shop and shoplifting some merchandise.
Someone is making a living from writing that code or making that music.
John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dambier" <peter@peter-dambier.de
To: <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: EU elections - piratenpartei.net censored
Thank you Arnold.
Yes, we have not put all our eggs in the same nest :)
As far as we could find out somebody has put us into an adult filter. That is what triggered the reaction of the hoster.
There is a movement of the governing parties in germany to install a mandatory adult filter controled only by a single policeman.
That is excactly what the pirates party is opposing.
Kind regards Peter
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