Re: soliciting agenda topics for the sunday night meeting
here's the updated agenda, with two changes. 1. added steve feldman's talk. 2. added URL for golding-et-al (as provided by golding-et-al). ------------------------------------------------------------------ introduction martin hannigan 5 minutes & paul vixie (moderators) program committe steve feldman 20 minutes overview "reform proposal" dan golding (et al) 15 minutes http://nanog-reform.org/ Q&A and discussion will follow each presentation, with moderation but without specific time limits set in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------ and as before...
anybody else got anything else? send to martin, myself, both of us, or the nanog@ mailing list if you want to put something on the sunday night agenda.
(steve feldman clarified that he's speaking not moderating.) (we've not heard yet whether betty or susan from merit will also be speaking.) -- paul vixie martin hannigan (moderators)
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:02:51 +0000, Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com> wrote:
"reform proposal" dan golding (et al) 15 minutes http://nanog-reform.org/
Remarkably detailed and well thought out proposal here, one that raises several serious issues. I would strongly urge anybody who is attending the vegas mtg to make it a point to attend this session. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
Just as a clarification - the "et al" in golding-et-al is pretty important. I'm just the face man - we had a very large group of folks who put significant effort into a proposal to improve NANOG. Please take some time to look at the list of people involved - a great cross-section of long-time NANOG participants, hosts, speakers and sponsors. In addition to the (long) list of authors, input was received from at least 15 other folks. Also, keep in mind that this was designed as a strawman, a proposal, not as a set of bylaws. These are concepts that the authors hope to get a larger consensus behind. Thanks, Dan On 1/7/05 12:02 PM, "Paul Vixie" <paul@vix.com> wrote:
here's the updated agenda, with two changes.
1. added steve feldman's talk. 2. added URL for golding-et-al (as provided by golding-et-al).
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introduction martin hannigan 5 minutes & paul vixie (moderators)
program committe steve feldman 20 minutes overview
"reform proposal" dan golding (et al) 15 minutes http://nanog-reform.org/
Q&A and discussion will follow each presentation, with moderation but without specific time limits set in advance.
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and as before...
anybody else got anything else? send to martin, myself, both of us, or the nanog@ mailing list if you want to put something on the sunday night agenda.
(steve feldman clarified that he's speaking not moderating.)
(we've not heard yet whether betty or susan from merit will also be speaking.) -- paul vixie martin hannigan (moderators)
-- Daniel Golding Network and Telecommunications Strategies Burton Group
here's the updated agenda, with three changes. 1. added betty burke's presentation. 2. added adjournment. 3. added webcast/concall. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- introduction martin hannigan 5 minutes & paul vixie (moderators) overview of history betty burke 15 minutes & history structure of NANOG program committee steve feldman 20 minutes overview "reform proposal" dan golding (et al) 15 minutes http://nanog-reform.org/ adjournment paul vixie 5 minutes (& directions & martin hannigan to the hotel bar) (moderators) Q&A and discussion will follow each presentation, with moderation but without specific time limits set in advance. (Q&A and open discussion will take most of the time of this meeting.) a webcast or one-way speakerphone will be made available, and there will be an IRC channel with local note takers for possible remote Q&A. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- and as before...
anybody else got anything else? send to martin, myself, both of us, or the nanog@ mailing list if you want to put something on the sunday night agenda. -- Paul Vixie
The (many) authors of the NANOG-Reform proposal would like to put out this brief clarification to address some concerns from the community... ---- Clarification: There has been concern that this proposal would limit NANOG mailing list reading/posting privileges or meeting attendance privileges. This is not the case. The only benefit of "membership" would be the ability to vote for the Board. List posting and conference attendance would remain as they are: to operators, vendors, academics, enterprise users, and any other interested party. Additionally, there has been concern that this proposal seeks to narrow the definition of "on-topic" for NANOG-L. In fact, the reverse is closer to the truth. The shift from Merit to community moderation is intended to lighten the hand of the moderator. All topics of general interest to the Internetworking community would be considered on-topic. Any further clarification would come from the elected BoD's, which would act in accordance with the wishes of the community. It is the desire of this document's authors that "warnings", "suspensions" and other such punitive actions would be unnecessary (or, at the least, extremely rare), following such a transition. Lastly, readers should remember that this proposal is a working document and not a standard or set of bylaws. As such, its very much open to debate and discussion. If the community desires a more open standard for "membership", than it can be opened up, provided there is a reasonable way to define the constituency for election purposes. ---- (this will also be posted to the web site) Please remember to check out www.nanog-reform.org. Thanks, Dan On 1/10/05 2:40 PM, "Paul Vixie" <vixie@vix.com> wrote:
here's the updated agenda, with three changes.
1. added betty burke's presentation. 2. added adjournment. 3. added webcast/concall.
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introduction martin hannigan 5 minutes & paul vixie (moderators)
overview of history betty burke 15 minutes & history structure of NANOG
program committee steve feldman 20 minutes overview
"reform proposal" dan golding (et al) 15 minutes http://nanog-reform.org/
adjournment paul vixie 5 minutes (& directions & martin hannigan to the hotel bar) (moderators)
Q&A and discussion will follow each presentation, with moderation but without specific time limits set in advance. (Q&A and open discussion will take most of the time of this meeting.)
a webcast or one-way speakerphone will be made available, and there will be an IRC channel with local note takers for possible remote Q&A.
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and as before...
anybody else got anything else? send to martin, myself, both of us, or the nanog@ mailing list if you want to put something on the sunday night agenda.
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Suresh Ramasubramanian