Re: Cell-based OOB management devices
David, a Sprint aircard can be had with a static-ip, so that should ease remote connectivity requirements. Or, you can opt for the Datalink (private VPN) service, which separates your aircard traffic from other customers within a VRF, obviating the need to run a separate VPN client. -RC ---- David Hubbard <dhubbard@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote:
Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band management during emergencies. I was wondering if anyone had experiences with such devices they could share?
Devices I've found include Sierra Wireless AirLink Raven X, Digi's ConnectWAN 3G or 4G and Opengear's ACM5004-G. I have no experience with any but they all appear to support the Sprint network which I assume would be ideal due to not having usage caps on data (currently). The Opengear device runs linux and has four serial ports, a usb port for additional storage and ethernet, so it seems to have some small advantages over the others since it could double as an emergency self-contained management station you can SSH into and run diagnostics from. All appear to have VPN/gateway support.
What none of them are clear on is how you would connect to it over cellular since I assume you're just paying for a typical data plan and it will randomly obtain IP addresses. Maybe some type of dynamic dns service so you can easily figure out your device's current IP? How stable is the access to the device? Any idea if any of them can do ipv6?
Thanks!
David
We do this with at&t with a custom APN works great no need to VPN. If you want to use Sprint take a look at Sprint Data Link. You can use your IPs on the data cards. Cheers Ryan -----Original Message----- From: rcheung@rochester.rr.com [mailto:rcheung@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:41 AM To: nanog@nanog.org; David Hubbard Subject: Re: Cell-based OOB management devices David, a Sprint aircard can be had with a static-ip, so that should ease remote connectivity requirements. Or, you can opt for the Datalink (private VPN) service, which separates your aircard traffic from other customers within a VRF, obviating the need to run a separate VPN client. -RC ---- David Hubbard <dhubbard@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote:
Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band management during emergencies. I was wondering if anyone had experiences with such devices they could share?
Devices I've found include Sierra Wireless AirLink Raven X, Digi's ConnectWAN 3G or 4G and Opengear's ACM5004-G. I have no experience with any but they all appear to support the Sprint network which I assume would be ideal due to not having usage caps on data (currently). The Opengear device runs linux and has four serial ports, a usb port for additional storage and ethernet, so it seems to have some small advantages over the others since it could double as an emergency self-contained management station you can SSH into and run diagnostics from. All appear to have VPN/gateway support.
What none of them are clear on is how you would connect to it over cellular since I assume you're just paying for a typical data plan and it will randomly obtain IP addresses. Maybe some type of dynamic dns service so you can easily figure out your device's current IP? How stable is the access to the device? Any idea if any of them can do ipv6?
Thanks!
David
Second this. Custom APN to AT&T with ipsec lan2lan VPN built to the provider. Works great for this. Once you get rid of the vpn need, you can use any cheap console server. I've seen solutions ranging from little opengear boxes (which are great to ship to a remote site to help a tech set something up, BTW), to home-brew solutions involving anything that can run OpenWRT, has a usb port, and can run screen or ser2net. Prices for low volume (10mb/month) data plans typically are less than analog lines, too. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ryan Finnesey <rfinnesey@gmail.com> wrote:
We do this with at&t with a custom APN works great no need to VPN. If you want to use Sprint take a look at Sprint Data Link. You can use your IPs on the data cards.
Cheers Ryan
-----Original Message----- From: rcheung@rochester.rr.com [mailto:rcheung@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:41 AM To: nanog@nanog.org; David Hubbard Subject: Re: Cell-based OOB management devices
David, a Sprint aircard can be had with a static-ip, so that should ease remote connectivity requirements. Or, you can opt for the Datalink (private VPN) service, which separates your aircard traffic from other customers within a VRF, obviating the need to run a separate VPN client.
-RC
---- David Hubbard <dhubbard@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote:
Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band management during emergencies. I was wondering if anyone had experiences with such devices they could share?
Devices I've found include Sierra Wireless AirLink Raven X, Digi's ConnectWAN 3G or 4G and Opengear's ACM5004-G. I have no experience with any but they all appear to support the Sprint network which I assume would be ideal due to not having usage caps on data (currently). The Opengear device runs linux and has four serial ports, a usb port for additional storage and ethernet, so it seems to have some small advantages over the others since it could double as an emergency self-contained management station you can SSH into and run diagnostics from. All appear to have VPN/gateway support.
What none of them are clear on is how you would connect to it over cellular since I assume you're just paying for a typical data plan and it will randomly obtain IP addresses. Maybe some type of dynamic dns service so you can easily figure out your device's current IP? How stable is the access to the device? Any idea if any of them can do ipv6?
Thanks!
David
We pay $4 per SIM with at&t then about $2.50 per MB. Cheers Ryan From: PC [mailto:paul4004@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:15 PM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: rcheung@rochester.rr.com; nanog@nanog.org; David Hubbard Subject: Re: Cell-based OOB management devices Second this. Custom APN to AT&T with ipsec lan2lan VPN built to the provider. Works great for this. Once you get rid of the vpn need, you can use any cheap console server. I've seen solutions ranging from little opengear boxes (which are great to ship to a remote site to help a tech set something up, BTW), to home-brew solutions involving anything that can run OpenWRT, has a usb port, and can run screen or ser2net. Prices for low volume (10mb/month) data plans typically are less than analog lines, too. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ryan Finnesey <rfinnesey@gmail.com> wrote: We do this with at&t with a custom APN works great no need to VPN. If you want to use Sprint take a look at Sprint Data Link. You can use your IPs on the data cards. Cheers Ryan -----Original Message----- From: rcheung@rochester.rr.com [mailto:rcheung@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:41 AM To: nanog@nanog.org; David Hubbard Subject: Re: Cell-based OOB management devices David, a Sprint aircard can be had with a static-ip, so that should ease remote connectivity requirements. Or, you can opt for the Datalink (private VPN) service, which separates your aircard traffic from other customers within a VRF, obviating the need to run a separate VPN client. -RC ---- David Hubbard <dhubbard@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote:
Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band management during emergencies. I was wondering if anyone had experiences with such devices they could share?
Devices I've found include Sierra Wireless AirLink Raven X, Digi's ConnectWAN 3G or 4G and Opengear's ACM5004-G. I have no experience with any but they all appear to support the Sprint network which I assume would be ideal due to not having usage caps on data (currently). The Opengear device runs linux and has four serial ports, a usb port for additional storage and ethernet, so it seems to have some small advantages over the others since it could double as an emergency self-contained management station you can SSH into and run diagnostics from. All appear to have VPN/gateway support.
What none of them are clear on is how you would connect to it over cellular since I assume you're just paying for a typical data plan and it will randomly obtain IP addresses. Maybe some type of dynamic dns service so you can easily figure out your device's current IP? How stable is the access to the device? Any idea if any of them can do ipv6?
Thanks!
David
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