Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me. Have never done that before. I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the United States might be. Thanks in advance! Ed(ward) Ray
Someone recently reached out to me and asked me about this same thing... to which I responded by asking them how much they would pay me to lease my address space... here was their response...I'm pretty sure they are U.S.-based company. I'd rather not say who they are... since I'm not sure I'm at liberty to do so. ************************************************************** Please see below pricing (per month with 6 months commitment) : /19 - 2000$ /20 - 1200$ /21 - 600$ /22 - 400$ /23 - 200$ /24 - 100$ ************************************************************** - Aaron -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Security Admin (NetSec) Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:45 AM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Leasing /22 blocks Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me. Have never done that before. I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the United States might be. Thanks in advance! Ed(ward) Ray
LogicWeb leases IPs, their pricing is below. /21 -1600$ /22 - 800$ /23 - 400$ /24 - 200$ Luke Guillory Network Operations Manager Tel: 985.536.1212 Fax: 985.536.0300 Email: lguillory@reservetele.com Reserve Telecommunications 100 RTC Dr Reserve, LA 70084 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer: The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material which should not disseminate, distribute or be copied. Please notify Luke Guillory immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Luke Guillory therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. . -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Gould Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 8:53 AM To: 'Security Admin (NetSec)'; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Leasing /22 blocks Someone recently reached out to me and asked me about this same thing... to which I responded by asking them how much they would pay me to lease my address space... here was their response...I'm pretty sure they are U.S.-based company. I'd rather not say who they are... since I'm not sure I'm at liberty to do so. ************************************************************** Please see below pricing (per month with 6 months commitment) : /19 - 2000$ /20 - 1200$ /21 - 600$ /22 - 400$ /23 - 200$ /24 - 100$ ************************************************************** - Aaron -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Security Admin (NetSec) Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:45 AM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Leasing /22 blocks Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me. Have never done that before. I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the United States might be. Thanks in advance! Ed(ward) Ray
Almost attractive pricing, but then we assume those IPs are trashed for life, and attract blowback scan/hack traffic? I would think that permanent sale is the only option, once one has removed all traces of one's name from all records (irr and robtex and mxtoolbox and and and) before one does. /kc On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 01:57:07PM +0000, Luke Guillory said:
LogicWeb leases IPs, their pricing is below.
/21 -1600$ /22 - 800$ /23 - 400$ /24 - 200$
Luke Guillory Network Operations Manager
Tel: 985.536.1212 Fax: 985.536.0300 Email: lguillory@reservetele.com
Reserve Telecommunications 100 RTC Dr Reserve, LA 70084
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Disclaimer: The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material which should not disseminate, distribute or be copied. Please notify Luke Guillory immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Luke Guillory therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. .
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Gould Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 8:53 AM To: 'Security Admin (NetSec)'; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Leasing /22 blocks
Someone recently reached out to me and asked me about this same thing... to which I responded by asking them how much they would pay me to lease my address space... here was their response...I'm pretty sure they are U.S.-based company. I'd rather not say who they are... since I'm not sure I'm at liberty to do so.
************************************************************** Please see below pricing (per month with 6 months commitment) :
/19 - 2000$ /20 - 1200$ /21 - 600$ /22 - 400$ /23 - 200$ /24 - 100$ **************************************************************
- Aaron
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Security Admin (NetSec) Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:45 AM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Leasing /22 blocks
Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me. Have never done that before.
I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the United States might be.
Thanks in advance!
Ed(ward) Ray
Ken Chase - math@sizone.org Guelph Canada
For purchase price I've seen a lot of recommendation for https://www.ipv4auctions.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 1, 2017 9:53 AM, "Aaron Gould" <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:
Someone recently reached out to me and asked me about this same thing... to which I responded by asking them how much they would pay me to lease my address space... here was their response...I'm pretty sure they are U.S.-based company. I'd rather not say who they are... since I'm not sure I'm at liberty to do so.
************************************************************** Please see below pricing (per month with 6 months commitment) :
/19 - 2000$ /20 - 1200$ /21 - 600$ /22 - 400$ /23 - 200$ /24 - 100$ **************************************************************
- Aaron
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Security Admin (NetSec) Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:45 AM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Leasing /22 blocks
Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me. Have never done that before.
I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the United States might be.
Thanks in advance!
Ed(ward) Ray
Yeah, I was looking at ipv4auctions.com a while back and recall seeing $10/per ip… now it seems that $12.50/per ip is the lowest -Aaron
While that is true, it does still require ARIN approval in the US and will need to be justified. Luke Guillory Network Operations Manager Tel: 985.536.1212 Fax: 985.536.0300 Email: lguillory@reservetele.com Reserve Telecommunications 100 RTC Dr Reserve, LA 70084 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer: The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material which should not disseminate, distribute or be copied. Please notify Luke Guillory immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Luke Guillory therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. . -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Gould Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:25 AM To: 'Josh Luthman' Cc: 'NANOG list' Subject: RE: Leasing /22 blocks Yeah, I was looking at ipv4auctions.com a while back and recall seeing $10/per ip… now it seems that $12.50/per ip is the lowest -Aaron
We have done several transactions with ipv4auctions. You do ARIN pre-approval first and then you are golden. Did a purchase just yesterday for $3900 for a /24. Justin Justin Wilson j2sw@mtin.net <mailto:j2sw@mtin.net> skype:j2swmtin <skype:j2swmtin> --- http://www.mtin.net <http://www.mtin.net/> xISP Solutions • Consulting • Data Centers • Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Internet Exchange • Peering • Distributed Fabric
On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Aaron Gould <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:
Yeah, I was looking at ipv4auctions.com a while back and recall seeing $10/per ip… now it seems that $12.50/per ip is the lowest
-Aaron
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 04:44:52PM +0000, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote:
Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me. Have never done that before.
I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the United States might be.
Let me just set up my crystal ball. Perhaps I can divine the future of your address space. Hmmm. It's a little cloudy. A lot of retransmits. What if I adjust this here -- nope, that's upping the packet loss. Maybe ...? Ahh, yes. It's starting to take shape. I see ... I see your IP space being used for abuse. It's appearing on every blacklist imaginable. Whole segments of the Network null route it. Hmmm. It's being returned to you by the spamm--clients. About a week later. You're sitting there with a couple hundred dollars. And a letter from ARIN. You look .. sad. Yes, definitely sad. I'd recommend not doing that. -- . ___ ___ . . ___ . \ / |\ |\ \ . _\_ /__ |-\ |-\ \__
You must look deeply into the company you lease IPs too. Have a contract - there is one on RentIPv4.com you can download, copy and modify. (I created it, I say you can do that if you need one.) But the contract is a small part....Because companies come and go. You must be able to verify many things about the company - how long in business - explore previous IPs they utilized... what they plan to do with them, will thier customers spam with them, etc. If not you run a greater risk of getting back IPs that are on international black lists. Many of those will require you to pay a ransom fees to be removed blocks. Thank You Bob Evans CTO
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 04:44:52PM +0000, Security Admin (NetSec) wrote:
Recently had someone offer to lease some IPv4 address space from me. Have never done that before.
I thought I would ask the group what a reasonable monthly rate for a /22 in the United States might be.
Let me just set up my crystal ball. Perhaps I can divine the future of your address space. Hmmm. It's a little cloudy. A lot of retransmits. What if I adjust this here -- nope, that's upping the packet loss. Maybe ...? Ahh, yes. It's starting to take shape. I see ...
I see your IP space being used for abuse. It's appearing on every blacklist imaginable. Whole segments of the Network null route it. Hmmm. It's being returned to you by the spamm--clients. About a week later. You're sitting there with a couple hundred dollars. And a letter from ARIN. You look .. sad. Yes, definitely sad.
I'd recommend not doing that.
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