Hi everyone! I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's. The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield? Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions. Thanks! Alex Forster
Go with Solid Optics (www.solid-optics.com). I can share a good sales contact offlist. Best regards Jürgen Jaritsch Head of Network & Infrastructure ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH Telefon: +43-5-0556-300 Telefax: +43-5-0556-500 E-Mail: jj@anexia.at Web: http://www.anexia.at Anschrift Hauptsitz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstraße 140, 9020 Klagenfurt Geschäftsführer: Alexander Windbichler Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601 -----Original Message----- From: Alex Forster [alex@alexforster.com] Received: Mittwoch, 20 Jän. 2016, 17:41 To: North American Network Operators' Group [nanog@nanog.org] Subject: Arista optics Hi everyone! I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's. The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield? Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions. Thanks! Alex Forster
Last I heard, EOS locks out non-Arista optics by default. You have to contact support for instructions to enable 3rd party modules. I’m running all Arista cables/optics - at the point when we ordered the pricing was competitive with 3rd party, but that was several years ago and the vendor was hungry. John
On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
No support ticket needed: localhost login: admin localhost>ena localhost#bash Arista Networks EOS shell [admin@localhost ~]$ touch /mnt/flash/enable3px [admin@localhost ~]$ sudo reboot As for the OP’s question, I’ve run Cisco OEM, Brocade OEM, and a number of different 3rd party SFP/SFP+s in the few Arista switches we operate with no issues. Arista OEM is likely the same 2-3 vendors that make or have made Cisco’s optics. It’s all been 10GBASE-SR, -LR, and 1000BASE-T, though. No 40GbE or 100GbE. On 1/20/16, 9:55 AM, "NANOG on behalf of John Kinsella" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of jlk@thrashyour.com> wrote:
Last I heard, EOS locks out non-Arista optics by default. You have to contact support for instructions to enable 3rd party modules.
I’m running all Arista cables/optics - at the point when we ordered the pricing was competitive with 3rd party, but that was several years ago and the vendor was hungry.
John
On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
They used to lock in, but optics have gotten so competitive that they aren't pushing it anymore. They have a list of optics they interop with, and will give you an unlock code with your order. Cheers, David --- Keys mashed on a very tiny keyboard.
On Jan 20, 2016, at 08:55, John Kinsella <jlk@thrashyour.com> wrote:
Last I heard, EOS locks out non-Arista optics by default. You have to contact support for instructions to enable 3rd party modules.
I’m running all Arista cables/optics - at the point when we ordered the pricing was competitive with 3rd party, but that was several years ago and the vendor was hungry.
John
On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
Who are you referring to David? Are you mentioning flexoptix? Is for are are saying I can recode a fiberstore sfp using a flexoptics programmer? On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:28 PM, David Lucey <dog-lists@schrimnir.net> wrote:
They used to lock in, but optics have gotten so competitive that they aren't pushing it anymore. They have a list of optics they interop with, and will give you an unlock code with your order.
Cheers, David
--- Keys mashed on a very tiny keyboard.
On Jan 20, 2016, at 08:55, John Kinsella <jlk@thrashyour.com> wrote:
Last I heard, EOS locks out non-Arista optics by default. You have to contact support for instructions to enable 3rd party modules.
I’m running all Arista cables/optics - at the point when we ordered the pricing was competitive with 3rd party, but that was several years ago and the vendor was hungry.
John
On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
If you are going to be using Flexoptics copper SFPs, be aware that if you are on the latest code revision 4.15.x that you may have to manually reseat the flexoptics SFPs for them to work. I have run into this issue recently in our lab. I can confirm that if you use 4.14.x that you will not have to reseat them. Thanks Joe Crowe On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote:
Who are you referring to David? Are you mentioning flexoptix? Is for are are saying I can recode a fiberstore sfp using a flexoptics programmer?
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:28 PM, David Lucey <dog-lists@schrimnir.net> wrote:
They used to lock in, but optics have gotten so competitive that they aren't pushing it anymore. They have a list of optics they interop with, and will give you an unlock code with your order.
Cheers, David
--- Keys mashed on a very tiny keyboard.
On Jan 20, 2016, at 08:55, John Kinsella <jlk@thrashyour.com> wrote:
Last I heard, EOS locks out non-Arista optics by default. You have to contact support for instructions to enable 3rd party modules.
I’m running all Arista cables/optics - at the point when we ordered the pricing was competitive with 3rd party, but that was several years ago and the vendor was hungry.
John
On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
*edit* be aware that if you are on the latest code revision 4.15.x that you may have to manually reseat the flexoptics SFPs for them to work --- this is after you reboot/reload the switch. On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:30 AM, J Crowe <jcrowe215@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are going to be using Flexoptics copper SFPs, be aware that if you are on the latest code revision 4.15.x that you may have to manually reseat the flexoptics SFPs for them to work. I have run into this issue recently in our lab. I can confirm that if you use 4.14.x that you will not have to reseat them.
Thanks Joe Crowe
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote:
Who are you referring to David? Are you mentioning flexoptix? Is for are are saying I can recode a fiberstore sfp using a flexoptics programmer?
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:28 PM, David Lucey <dog-lists@schrimnir.net> wrote:
They used to lock in, but optics have gotten so competitive that they aren't pushing it anymore. They have a list of optics they interop with, and will give you an unlock code with your order.
Cheers, David
--- Keys mashed on a very tiny keyboard.
On Jan 20, 2016, at 08:55, John Kinsella <jlk@thrashyour.com> wrote:
Last I heard, EOS locks out non-Arista optics by default. You have to contact support for instructions to enable 3rd party modules.
I’m running all Arista cables/optics - at the point when we ordered the pricing was competitive with 3rd party, but that was several years ago and the vendor was hungry.
John
On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
We are having good luck with optics from OSI Hardware for Cisco, Juniper and Arista. They even had presence at NANOG65. I recommend. --Andrey On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:38 AM, J Crowe <jcrowe215@gmail.com> wrote:
*edit* be aware that if you are on the latest code revision 4.15.x that you may have to manually reseat the flexoptics SFPs for them to work --- this is after you reboot/reload the switch.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:30 AM, J Crowe <jcrowe215@gmail.com> wrote:
If you are going to be using Flexoptics copper SFPs, be aware that if you are on the latest code revision 4.15.x that you may have to manually reseat the flexoptics SFPs for them to work. I have run into this issue recently in our lab. I can confirm that if you use 4.14.x that you will not have to reseat them.
Thanks Joe Crowe
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote:
Who are you referring to David? Are you mentioning flexoptix? Is for are are saying I can recode a fiberstore sfp using a flexoptics programmer?
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:28 PM, David Lucey <dog-lists@schrimnir.net> wrote:
They used to lock in, but optics have gotten so competitive that they aren't pushing it anymore. They have a list of optics they interop with, and will give you an unlock code with your order.
Cheers, David
--- Keys mashed on a very tiny keyboard.
On Jan 20, 2016, at 08:55, John Kinsella <jlk@thrashyour.com> wrote:
Last I heard, EOS locks out non-Arista optics by default. You have to contact support for instructions to enable 3rd party modules.
I’m running all Arista cables/optics - at the point when we ordered the pricing was competitive with 3rd party, but that was several years ago and the vendor was hungry.
John
On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
We have good experience with Flexoptix. You can brand them yourself using their (free?) USB box to any vendor you want, including Arista. Not sure if they have QSFP's yet, but we have CFP-LR4's running successfully on multiple paths of our backbone. On 20/01/16 17:39, Alex Forster wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
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On 20/01/16 16:56, Jeroen Wunnink wrote:
We have good experience with Flexoptix. You can brand them yourself using their (free?) USB box to any vendor you want, including Arista. Not sure if they have QSFP's yet, but we have CFP-LR4's running successfully on multiple paths of our backbone.
https://www.flexoptix.net/en/qsfp28-lr4-transceiver-100-gigabit-sm-4-waves-1... Note that if you see something you don't like (the price, the compatibility, or whatever) then do get in touch with them; they can be extremely accommodating. :) -- Tom
On 20 Jan 2016, at 16:56, Jeroen Wunnink <jeroen.wunnink@hibernianetworks.com> wrote:
We have good experience with Flexoptix. You can brand them yourself using their (free?) USB box to any vendor you want, including Arista. Not sure if they have QSFP's yet, but we have CFP-LR4's running successfully on multiple paths of our backbone.
Wearing my Flexoptix hat I can confirm that we do QSFP & QSFP28 available. f
Luma Optics has Arista Compatibles available. Please bear in mind some versions of Arista OS do not accept compatibles. We are happy to discuss our findings with you. Eric Luma Optics 650 996 7270 Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Alex Forster <alex@alexforster.com> wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm trying to get buy-in to go with Arista for some new infrastructure, but the Arista optics just aren't in the ballpark for us at "proof-of-concept" volume. In Cisco-land, we've had great success using Finisar optics, and they've been an easy "sell" to management since many Cisco optics are just rebranded Finisar's.
The relevant Arista optics I'm looking at are QSFP-100G-LR4 and SFP-10G-LR. Does anybody know what supplier(s) manufacture these optics for Arista? Alternatively, does anyone have any experience using third-party comparable optics (especially the 100G) in the battlefield?
No 100G experience, but Flexoptix has been very helpful and accommodating. Particularly with issues we had with 10G and certain server NICs. Best support I've ever seen for optics in $jobs.
...karl
Since optics sales are pretty cut-throat, I do ask that you disclose if you have a financial interest in any of your suggestions.
Thanks!
Alex Forster
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