RE: Did Sean Gorman's maps show the cascading vulnerability in Oh io?
Capacity isn't the problem. The problem is that there aren't enough lines between the providers and consumers to carry the current volume.
Eric A. Hall
Exactly, and everyone on this list should realize this exists in EVERY utility. A quote from CNN.com, Money section: "However, the wireless telecom sector has many problems. Most carriers are faced with large debt loads. And because of intense competition (there are six major carriers nationwide) they are resorting to price wars to attract new subscribers. All that means that it has been difficult for the carriers to upgrade their networks to handle more calls and will probably remain so for the foreseeable future. "It will be years before wireless carriers are at a level where they can handle the type of volume that landlines can," said Allan Tumolillo,chief operating officer of Probe Group, a telecom research firm." So, wireless failed to guarantee service because they lacked the economic incentive to do so, which meant people couldn't call during a blackout caused because Power wasn't economically incentivized to do so either.
And here we all go again, talking about something we have no clue about. In case you have forgotten, I would like to remind you all of certain things (in no particular order). You ARE NOT: a) electric utilities b) independent system operators c) utility workers who actually climb poles d) excavators e) the 'call before you dig' service f) library curators g) large wireless carriers h) the united states government i) sean gorman j) terrorists k) generator manufacturers l) any of the people dead due to the blackout m) transmission lines n) circuit breakers o) transformers p) regulators q) power plant operators r) the north american energy reliability council s) members of the north american energy reliability council t) in charge of dispersing lightning u) the canadian government v) control board logic w) active energy traders x) senior-level execs at energy companies y) the lake erie loop z) the loch ness monster You ARE: a) network engineers b) network administrators c) network technicians d) system administrators e) (insert any other random network related title here) f) END USERS OF THE U.S. POWER INFRASTRUCTURE Have a happy angst-filled low-voltage day.
On maandag, aug 18, 2003, at 23:11 Europe/Amsterdam, Omachonu Ogali wrote:
You ARE:
f) END USERS OF THE U.S. POWER INFRASTRUCTURE
If only we had been, all of this would have been unnecessary... I wouldn't be surprised if for at least half of your "you are not" list there would be one or more NANOGgers who in fact are, or have been.
At 05:23 PM 8/18/2003, you wrote:
On maandag, aug 18, 2003, at 23:11 Europe/Amsterdam, Omachonu Ogali wrote:
You ARE:
f) END USERS OF THE U.S. POWER INFRASTRUCTURE
If only we had been, all of this would have been unnecessary...
I wouldn't be surprised if for at least half of your "you are not" list there would be one or more NANOGgers who in fact are, or have been.
Very true. I know of many people on nanog (myself included) who have very close ties to many of the items on your list. Although I have never been a loch ness monster or the Canadian government. :) -Robert btw- As an aside, we purchased NERC's ISP business earlier this year and I have to say that from my work with them, they are some of the most intelligent people I've ever met. Not to mention that are all spectacularly nice! If NERC has anything to say about it, great minds are working on the issues. Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com | 888-TELLURIAN | 973-300-9211 "Good will, like a good name, is got by many actions, and lost by one." - Francis Jeffrey
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