---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 10:46:54 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Branham <abranham@ind.net> To: Sean Donelan <SEAN@SDG.DRA.COM> Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: 165.138.0.0 Sean, when I look at a full BGP table from MCI/Sprint/UUnet/and ANS I see a lot of /16 - /24's on the 12.0.0.0 (which also has a /8), 24.0.0.0 (which has no /8), 53.0.0.0, 62.0.0.0, etc.....Some of these have the classic /8 covering them and some don't. It's the same story for several /16's (class b networks) I see 132.155.204.0/23 (without a /16 anywhere), 134.128.52.0/24 (without a /16). Do you have problems getting to all of these?

From a router that has a customer connection to ANS, MCI, UUnet, and Sprint I see all of our routes even though we only have uplinks to MCI and Sprint.

This router has direct connects with MCI and UUnet and iBGP peers with a router that has the connections to Sprint and ANS. Core#sh ip b reg _1767_ ...cut.... * i165.138.96.0/20 208.160.14.1 0 0 1239 1239 1767 i * i 208.160.14.1 0 0 1239 1239 1767 i *> 166.48.222.45 0 0 3561 3561 1767 i * 157.130.97.209 0 0 701 701 1239 1767 i ...cut.... This is the other router..... ...cut.... * i165.138.96.0/20 208.160.10.1 0 0 3561 3561 1767 i * i 208.160.10.1 0 0 3561 3561 1767 i * 192.103.62.121 0 0 1323 1673 3561 1767 i *> 144.228.13.229 0 0 1239 1239 1767 i ...cut.... The purpose of the /20's and /19's on our 165.138.0.0, 165.139.0.0 and 157.91.0.0 networks was to provide better service to our customers and to try and save IP address space for others. Like some of the class A's above we treated these as CIDR blocks instead of going to our upstream providers or the ARIN to get more addresses. Because our network has a dozen pops thoughout the state and each has at least one upstream connection to Sprint and MCI we advertise them as the /19's and /20's. This provides the greates redundancy for our customers. Sprint's policy does not apply to customer routes so they do not filter at the /16 level for classic B addresses. (They do for everybody else though....) Neither does MCI and it appears that ANS and UUnet do not filter with their connections to MCI and Sprint. We have run this way for several weeks now and this is the first call on the problem that we have gotten. But since the idea here is connectivity we'll re-announce the /16 from at least one of the POPs. But in order to make sure the /16 is always routable we'll have to advertise it from every POP that has a /20 or /19 sub address. Otherwise if the one POP advertising the /16 goes down our customers on the noted networks will loose connectivity to your network. (We'll also have to put in a /16 static route to overide the null0 that BGP will inject into our routing tables.) It was much cleaner to just advertise the /19's and /20's without the /16 but we can (and I guess will have to unless you change your filters) do it the other way. - - Aaron Branham [AKB8] (a@ind.net) <Phone# 317.263.8976>