On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Gerardo A. Gregory wrote:
I think this is just plain lazzines...there is no other way to view it.
So if you have a problem with someone dumping crap onto your network and you've done everything you can to get the provider to stop the offender, and they won't, what would you do then? Ignore it?
Along the lines of SPEWS is spambag.org this idiot, because there is no other way to describe him, has blocked SPRINTLINK netblocks in huge chunks, and then raves on like a lunatic on how he justifies his actions (I wonder if it because he realizes what a lazy, good for nothing "administrator" he is, since he seems so emotional in letting you know that he is a "professional" administrator)
Yeah. I know the guy who runs spambag. He is very aggressive about blocking. He also doesn't advertise that his block list is usable for anyone besides himself. So what's your point? Sprint has cleaned up a lot. They used to be absolutely horrible WRT hosting spammers and abusers, which I'm sure is why spambag lists all of Sprint. I wouldn't use any list that lists an entire backbone, myself. But guess what... it's his server and he is allowed to protect it in whichever way he deems appropriate.
He doesnt realize that he only hurts himself....we where going to one of his sites for a mail server solution, as soon as I read all his ravings I just cruised somewhere else..to hell with him and his lazy administration skills.
Your choice.
I still believe the guy blocked sprintlink because he cant really subnet...he has no concept of math, that and lazzines.
Nah, he's a decent programmer; I've used some of his stuff before. And a *ton* of spam used to come from Sprint. Like I said... they've made good efforts to clean up recently... but... The fact remains that there are a number of people who run very aggressive block lists (much more so than SPEWS). I can think of spambag and at least one or two others. (xbl.selwerd.cx comes to mind.) None of these people advertise that anyone else should use their lists. They're personal lists. Read the spambag.org homepage and it states very clearly that it's a personal list. SPEWS is a completely different animal, as I don't believe it was ever meant to be a personal list; it was meant to be used by others... -- Steve Sobol, CTO JustThe.net LLC, Mentor On The Lake, OH 888.480.4NET - I do my best work with one of my cockatiels sitting on each shoulder - 6/4/02:A USA TODAY poll found that 80% of Catholics advocated a zero-tolerance stance towards abusive priests. The fact that 20% didn't, scares me...
"Steven J. Sobol" wrote:
So if you have a problem with someone dumping crap onto your network and you've done everything you can to get the provider to stop the offender, and they won't, what would you do then? Ignore it?
Depends on the nature of the abuse. If you're blocking his packets, and he isn't jumping to a new address block, then your problem is solved. If the ISP never terminates his account, why should you care? He's already out of your hair. If his ISP gives him a new address block in order to get out from under your filters, then that's something else. Now the ISP has taken specific action in support of the spam. At this point, but not before, escalating the filters to cover the rest of the ISP's address space would make sense. -- David
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